Zell Wolf GWF Zell Wolf Version VII-2: REBIRTH Night 1 / Day 1

[shortkut]

But like... you wouldn't need the role dictionary to comply with Kelly's plan.

I would if I don’t know if my role is guaranteed or not

 

[shortkut]

Shortkut is the solo killer

 

[Raposuh]

As soon as you read this, say whether you are a random villager or a guaranteed villager.

Do not say your specific role.

If you do not claim, you will be lynched.

Why?

• Forces wolves to decide day 1 what their soft "role" is; can't change mid-game
• Makes it easier for town to find wolves by splitting them into two groups
• Completely nullifies power of confusion wolf
• Game is stacked against town. They have a guardian wolf so can thus waste a day, meaning it will likely be 9v6 by the time we can successfully lynch (at best)
• We have to vote together as a town. No waffling, no changing votes unless actionable info comes out, no splitting votes.

And for god sakes Ritualist, I can't believe this has to be said, but don't revive a bad guy.

Guaranteed villagers:
Vash
Benzine
Raposuh

Random villagers:
Alu
Smacktard
Tubby
Local (?)

No claim/delayed claim:
Dean
Jon
Kat
Tommy Boy

Refuses to claim:
Cole
Jawneh
shortkut
TD

dong ding:
@Raine

(Sorry for tagging everyone. Had to make sure everyone saw. YOU still love me.. right? Someone?... Hold me ;_; )

Now that I've gone back and read the thread, your post about me being guaranteed makes a lot more sense now. I thought there was some weird new role

 

[Smacktard]

Now that I've gone back and read the thread, your post about me being guaranteed makes a lot more sense now. I thought there was some weird new role

Nah brah you're just certified FRESH

 

[VashTheStampede]

I would if I don’t know if my role is guaranteed or not

The first post is not the role dictionary

 

[VashTheStampede]

Voting shortkut for the moment

 

[Raposuh]

Hello fresh gets you free breakfast for life tm

 

[shortkut]

The first post is not the role dictionary

Really? I haven’t read the first post in a long time, lol

 

[VashTheStampede]

Really? I haven’t read the first post in a long time, lol

So that part where you voted for Smacktard because of being a hindrance to the town...

 

[Smacktard]

Really? I haven’t read the first post in a long time, lol

In that case...

Kelly is over here spitting out half-baked ideas and then when people explain why they are bad ideas, he turns around to say that everyone else is giving plans to the wolves. Bare minimum he’s a danger to the town

 

[shortkut]

So that part where you voted for Smacktard because of being a hindrance to the town...

I start paying attention about halfway through and fuck things up for our enemies. See last mafia game

 

[Tubby23]

Remove vote for Smacktard

 

[VashTheStampede]

I start paying attention about halfway through and fuck things up for our enemies. See last mafia game

Ok so let me get you up to speed:

There's a fuckton of wolves this time and no solo killer to do the heavy lifting.

 

[Smacktard]

I start paying attention about halfway through and fuck things up for our enemies. See last mafia game

...The game that the town lost is your best example of your skillset?

Again:

Do you not pay attention to any previous day 1? Day 1 means throw shit against the wall and see what sticks.

Keeps vote on smacktard for being dense or obtuse

 

[VashTheStampede]

Remember guys.
We'll kill a wolf today.

But that's news for tomorrow.
I'm off to bed and it's Canadian Thanksgiving.

But don't worry - I'll make a post.

I do not understand the virtue of this "don't worry guys, I'll be back to save the day" nonsense.

It just feels like fake activity while making sure nothing actually happens.

Unhelpful or straight up malicious.

 

[Smacktard]

I do not understand the virtue of this "don't worry guys, I'll be back to save the day" nonsense.

It just feels like fake activity while making sure nothing actually happens.

Unhelpful or straight up malicious.

I think he feels like he has to explain why his posting patterns may not be the same as normal, which is valid... but it still doesn't mean I don't think he's not the werewolf fan

 

[Raposuh]

You're all werewolf fans to me

Cuz we keep playing this game get it

 

[VashTheStampede]

You're all werewolf fans to me

Cuz we keep playing this game get it

I'm more of a mafia stan

 

[Raposuh]

Yo @Benzine you read the newest one piece chap yet

That shit was crazy

 

[shortkut]

I think I have enough of a sample size available where everyone knows today is not out of the ordinary for when I’m innocent and when you mistakenly lynch me, you’ll see

On the bright side, I’ll get to hang out with @Christina

 

[VashTheStampede]

I think he feels like he has to explain why his posting patterns may not be the same as normal, which is valid... but it still doesn't mean I don't think he's not the werewolf fan

That explains the Canadian Thanksgiving bit but not the "its okay guys, we're definitely getting a wolf you betcha then we're going for pizza and ice cream!"

I might be a little cranky today.

 

[Dean]

 

[Raposuh]

I'm more of a mafia stan

 

[VashTheStampede]

Wolf

 

[Dean]

Wolf

 

[Smacktard]

Wolf

Elaborate.

 

[Zell 17]

Wolf

How many animals is that for you now?

 

[VashTheStampede]

Elaborate.

The main thing that has jumped out to me from his posts is crapping all over your plan.

Haven't seen him as aggressively negative before. Last few games where he was good he was closer to timid than anything.

 

[Dean]

 

[A Maybe Baker]

I feel like Dean is going along with the plan and saying he's a guaranteed role?

 

[Smacktard]

The main thing that has jumped out to me from his posts is crapping all over your plan.

Haven't seen him as aggressively negative before. Last few games where he was good he was closer to timid than anything.

yes yes but I'm willing to overlook these transgressions for now because he is posting Tommy Boy videos

But it is interesting how Dean and kut both suddenly change their tune. I wonder when the rest will follow suit.

 

[Dean]

The main thing that has jumped out to me from his posts is crapping all over your plan.

Haven't seen him as aggressively negative before. Last few games where he was good he was closer to timid than anything.

I hadn't played wolf/Mafia forever, so I was a lot less aggressive than I would've been years ago.

On paper, I still don't like Kelly's plan. Last night, almost everyone had a less than favorable reaction to it. I was one of the first to point out that it could narrow down which roles the wolves might target first.

I read through pages 4-6 this morning and both sides of the argument. Kat, TD, and Cole still seem to be against it for the most part... although Cole isn't entirely against it, just wants @Smacktard to put his money where his mouth is. Same with how most feel about TD delaying the supposed wolf kill.

I weighed both options, and I agreed with your post where you said that in past games, more info helps the town. I saw how quickly that fell apart in Mafia when we didn't have a seer come out and just blatantly finger the wolves (that sounds wrong).

I could be getting duped. I don't fucking know. But I decided to go ahead and go with the group strategy since several people already responded and me holding out at this point is only going to make me look suspicious.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Also of note about the good read for Kelly:

Option 1: it's real, a townie made it, he's a townie
Option 2: it's real, a townie made it, he's sorcerer or fan
3: it's real, the sorcerer made it, he's a townie
4: it's real, the sorcerer made it, he's the fan
5: it's fake but believable because it's the first "information" to come out

 

[VashTheStampede]

Lol like 5 or 6 people haven't even made a meaningful post yet and you're doing a sus list

You do you

Ok I do think I completely misread his Tommy Boy post but this one still sticks out like a sore thumb to me.

More confrontational than I'm used to from him.

But I'll back off for now since I did mistake the most recent post.

 

[TD]

Normally I wouldn't share this early in the day because the discussion so far has helped identify some suspects. That said - I have Canadian Thanksgiving and I'm currently getting ready to go.

There's a real chance I'm not getting back by 11pm and can't let what I know or think die with me like I did in the last game.

WHAT I KNOW - Local Hero is a wolf.
I vote Local Hero.

People I'm eying:
Dean, Jon, Raposuh

See y'all tomorrow. Maybe.

 

[shortkut]

yes yes but I'm willing to overlook these transgressions for now because he is posting Tommy Boy videos

But it is interesting how Dean and kut both suddenly change their tune. I wonder when the rest will follow suit.

I have not changed my tune. I’m still voting for you and still think you’re wolf aligned

 

[Dean]

Ok I do think I completely misread his Tommy Boy post but this one still sticks out like a sore thumb to me.

More confrontational than I'm used to from him.

But I'll back off for now since I did mistake the most recent post.

I mean, I was pretty tired and found it funny that he was rushing to create a sus list. I usually wait until day two myself, especially when at that point, so many people hadn't posted yet.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Ok I do think I completely misread his Tommy Boy post but this one still sticks out like a sore thumb to me.

More confrontational than I'm used to from him.

But I'll back off for now since I did mistake the most recent post.

The second one sealed it for me as going along with the plan, as they both highlight the word guarantee. The first one alone I thought maybe he was taking a dump on the plan.

 

[VashTheStampede]

I mean, I was pretty tired and found it funny that he was rushing to create a sus list. I usually wait until day two myself, especially when at that point, so many people hadn't posted yet.

In the mafia game (totally unrelated situation due to Tells, I know) you were claiming Tubby's posting was suspect on page 1.

That's been in my mind.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

In the mafia game (totally unrelated situation due to Tells, I know) you were claiming Tubby's posting was suspect on page 1.

That's been in my mind.

Dude's got notes.

 

[Zell 17]

Votes to lynch (8 required):

shortkut - 3 (Local Hero, Smacktard, VashTheStampede)
Benzine - 1 (Jawneh)
Jawneh - 1 (Benzine)
Local Hero - 1 (TD)
Smacktard - 1 (shortkut)
Tubby23 - 1 (Raposuh)

No vote - 8 (Alu, Cole, Dean, Jon, Kat, Raine, Tommy Boy, Tubby23)

Votes to skip (15 required):

Skip - 1 (Benzine)

No vote - 15 (Alu, Cole, Dean, Jawneh, Jon, Kat, Local Hero, Raine, Raposuh, shortkut, Smacktard, TD, Tommy Boy, Tubby23, VashTheStampede)

 

[Dean]

In the mafia game (totally unrelated situation due to Tells, I know) you were claiming Tubby's posting was suspect on page 1.

That's been in my mind.

Why do you gotta point out my hypocrisy?

I guess you have a valid point. I don't know why I had such a strong vibe about Tubby. He came out of the gate with so much posting, even back to back. He is usually talkative/aggressive early, but something seemed off. I'm not usually good about cold reads like that, so I don't know. I'm glad Tubby won though.

 

[Raposuh]

Ok I do think I completely misread his Tommy Boy post but this one still sticks out like a sore thumb to me.

More confrontational than I'm used to from him.

But I'll back off for now since I did mistake the most recent post.

Have you even posted a gif yet? Who are you, what have you done with Vash D. Stampede?

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Also until I hear something more compelling in willing to go along with TDs plan (once I reread through the roles in this game)

 

[VashTheStampede]

Voting Local Hero until i hear a rebuttal from him

 

[Zell 17]

Votes to lynch (8 required):

Local Hero - 2 (TD, VashTheStampede)
shortkut - 2 (Local Hero, Smacktard)
Benzine - 1 (Jawneh)
Jawneh - 1 (Benzine)
Smacktard - 1 (shortkut)
Tubby23 - 1 (Raposuh)

No vote - 8 (Alu, Cole, Dean, Jon, Kat, Raine, Tommy Boy, Tubby23)

Votes to skip (15 required):

Skip - 1 (Benzine)

No vote - 15 (Alu, Cole, Dean, Jawneh, Jon, Kat, Local Hero, Raine, Raposuh, shortkut, Smacktard, TD, Tommy Boy, Tubby23, VashTheStampede)

 

[VashTheStampede]

Have you even posted a gif yet? Who are you, what have you done with Vash D. Stampede?

At least two on this page alone

 

[Local Hero]

Voting Local Hero until i hear a rebuttal from him

I haven't heard any buttals for me to rebutt!?

 

[Dean]

I'm going to think a bit. We've got plenty of time. I'm not opposed to voting Local Hero, and I'm sure TD wouldn't just blatantly say he's 100% wolf l if he wasn't... but I want to see what he has to say and not have some mega irreversible bandwagon form.

 

[Dean]

I haven't heard any buttals for me to rebutt!?

In your spare time, do you prefer to...

A. Feast on human flesh
B. Howl at the moon
C. Hunt in packs
D. All of the above

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