Zell Wolf GWF Zell Wolf Version VII-2: REBIRTH Night 2 / Day 2

[Smacktard]

I checked within the number set outlined by Raposa and I

Raposa gave you the numbers, you seer'd the number most beneficial to you, wolfy.

 

[Dean]

Probably was Raine lmao

If it is Raine again...
1. Fucking hilarious
2. I hope she was protecting herself and will rejoin soon

 

[Smacktard]

Updated sus list in order of sussiness:
Local
Tommy
Kat
Cole
~TBD~
comedy option (shortkut)

 

[Tommy Boy]

I know Local is evil and I'm 99% sure Tommy is lying.

Based on what??? You KNOW what it looks like when I'm lying dude, and I was barely suspicious about you yesterday even though you had a lot to say. But now, what the heck? Don't have have some sort of info to share now that it's the next day?

We need to stop redirecting towards people who we have considered claimed. I went along with your request. What was so important to share today that you withheld yesterday?

 

[Local Hero]

I said I would protect number range nine through 16. I'm number nine.

It also looks like no one tried to kill me even though everyone suspected me the most. My bet is killing roles assumed another killing role would try to kill me so no one actually tried to.

Unless somebody did actually try to kill me and the order of operations just got messed up by all of the rampant death going on.

 

[Smacktard]

Gut feeling: Wolves feel like they have enough votes that they can gang up and brute force a win today.

We DEFINITELY need a lynch today or we lose. Automatically, immediately. If (when) guardian wolf swoops in, we had better have a killing role target well, or a protection role target well.

 

[Kat]

Updated sus list in order of sussiness:
Local
Tommy
Kat
Cole
~TBD~
comedy option (shortkut)

So I ask you for your reasoning of Local being definitely evil and the proof of your innocence you offered yesterday, and your response is to put me on your sus list?

 

[Dean]

Let's look at the less active people...

Benzine - Not usually super active, sometimes in short bursts. Hasn't really played enough besides trying to lynch Jawneh and then giving up.
Alu (aka Anal Adventures) - probably hungover. Active yesterday, seemed like he was trying to figure shit out. I need to see voting patterns.
Cole - Said he had COVID and was feeling like garbage. Came in to blast TD and talk about how great his own playing skills are compared to everyone else's, so nothing out of the ordinary there.
Jawneh - Giving me the most sus vibes. Just seems really inactive, even compared to the norm, and something seems off.
shortkut - sinking into illiteracy with me. Seems very nonchalant/quiet this game, like he is trying to fly under the radar.

Everyone else was more or less active, compared to the usual levels.

I'm leery of Tubby. Another weird feeling, I guess.

But yeah. I think if the ritualist gets revived, we can still have a shot at turning this around.

 

[Kat]

Unfortunately I have a work meeting so I can't watch this for a bit. Y'all better have a wolf ready to lynch when I get back.

 

[Local Hero]

So I ask you for your reasoning of Local being definitely evil and the proof of your innocence you offered yesterday, and your response is to put me on your sus list?

Just like yesterday, the margins are razor thin. The only way the town wins is by every townie roll claiming.

But the moment someone asks for role hints, they're deemed sus?

Kelly is # one most sus person here.

 

[Smacktard]

Based on what??? You KNOW what it looks like when I'm lying dude

Berserk wolf killed TD and Raine got caught in the middle of it, then Local claims he was the one that accidentally killed TD? He fucked up. How could wolves have targeted Local if they had targeted TD and Raine got caught in the middle of it? It doesn't make sense. It's a cover-up.

The Flagger role literally says:

Aura: Unknown
At night, can select any player to protect (including themselves) and a player to target. Must select both or neither. Any normal (i.e., non-berserk) night attacks by evil/solo players against the protected player will be redirected to the targeted player

Local dun fuck'd up.

...and you, Tommy, had THIS post...:

So with this logic:

1. Local Hero may or may not have flagged himself and TD
2. Raine protects TD (we know Raine had a protection role now)
3. TD is targeted by Wolves
4. Berserk was activated and Raine's protection failed, leading to both deaths
5. Local Hero still alive with unknown aura

• Vash ded

... ready to go three minutes after Zell made the post you responded to?

(this is me pressing [X] to doubt)

 

[Dean]

This just sucks haha. I'm so bad at these games.

I'm gonna get off here for a bit to go do something productive and then come back and shit post a bunch later.

 

[Dean]

TD is probably the Ritualist.

I hope you protected yourself, dude!

 

[Smacktard]

Kat is in cahoots with you too. Nice try. You almost got away with it too, were it not for this meddling librarian.

 

[Dean]

Kat is in cahoots with you too. Nice try. You almost got away with it too, were it not for this meddling librarian.

Is that a role claim? Are we role claiming now?

 

[Local Hero]

then Local claims he was the one that accidentally killed TD?

I merely said who I protected and targeted. I never said that anyone actually attacked me nor I was the one responsible for TD's death

 

[A Maybe Baker]

FYI local said he protected himself and tagged TD. He didn't say he was notified his protection worked.

 

[Smacktard]

So I ask you for your reasoning of Local being definitely evil and the proof of your innocence you offered yesterday, and your response is to put me on your sus list?

yes yes i should really concern myself with trying to get a wolf to vote for her own

Peep this incontrovertible proof then and vote Local without hesitation:

• Flagger cannot redirect berserk attacks
• Local claimed he, as a flagger, redirected a berserk attack

I vote Local Hero because he is a wolf.

 

[Tommy Boy]

...and you, Tommy, had THIS post...:

... ready to go three minutes after Zell made the post you responded to?

(this is me pressing [X] to doubt)

We were literally all here, in the thread, actively replying. So when I see "Messages have been posted since you loaded this page. View them?" I view them.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

yes yes i should really concern myself with trying to get a wolf to vote for her own

Peep this incontrovertible proof then and vote Local without hesitation:

• Flagger cannot redirect berserk attacks
• Local claimed he, as a flagger, redirected a berserk attack

I vote Local Hero because he is a wolf.

No he didn't.

 

[Dean]

Alright for real, I'll be back later to garbage post.

Closing thoughts for now:
TD is hopefully the Ritualist
Raine was not since she tried and failed to protect TD, so maybe Raine is/was Tough Guy?

Somebody smarter than me (so everyone) can figure the rest of it out.

 

[Local Hero]

I vote Local Hero because he is a wolf.

Wolf in the sheets, not in the streets

 

[Smacktard]

We were literally all here, in the thread, actively replying. So when I see "Messages have been posted since you loaded this page. View them?" I view them.

Sure, but it's a lot of logic to dump within a span of 3 minutes. There's no way you knew the roles that well enough to type up such an informed post in such a short time. You were running narrative control.

 

[Smacktard]

TD is hopefully the Ritualist

1. What are you talking about? He claimed his role before.
2. The Ritualist being dead only benefits the wolves.

 

[Dean]

1. What are you talking about? He claimed his role before.
2. The Ritualist being dead only benefits the wolves.

I probably missed his role claim. I just saw him say he wasn't the Tough Guy.

If TD is the Ritualist and he protected himself, then he will be back.

I'm trying to figure out who the fucking Ritualist is.

 

[Smacktard]

I probably missed his role claim. I just saw him say he wasn't the Tough Guy.

No, he said he wasn't going to claim Tough Guy. There's a distinction here.

 

[Local Hero]

I probably missed his role claim. I just saw him say he wasn't the Tough Guy.

Unless he was trying to hide being tough guy after people caught on? I didn't really see any hints, but he definitely denied being tough guy

 

[Local Hero]

No, he said he wasn't going to claim Tough Guy. There's a distinction here.

So you can understand the context of TDs posts, but not mine?

 

[Dean]

I don't think TD was the Tough Guy, because how many protection roles can we have?

Kat alluded to Bodyguard or something
Raine had one
I have one (sorta...)
And I'm not counting Flagger since that is a redirect

 

[Smacktard]

Hey guys pretty crazy how this berserk thing would've been a lot less likely to have happened if people didn't role claim day 1 and instead role type claimed.

 

[Tommy Boy]

Sure, but it's a lot of logic to dump within a span of 3 minutes. There's no way you knew the roles that well enough to type up such an informed post in such a short time. You were running narrative control.

Very aggressive. Kind of lame to assume I don't have a good understanding of the roles, especially in my first game with a spreadsheet. I'm not sure why you're pivoting on me so hard.

 

[Dean]

Very aggressive. Kind of lame to assume I don't have a good understanding of the roles, especially in my first game with a spreadsheet. I'm not sure why you're pivoting on me so hard.

When you start to excel, people like to spread sheet

I'll see myself out

 

[Smacktard]

And I'm not counting Flagger since that is a redirect

Dean, Tommy, Kat, Alu all running interference for Local.

Again, it's impossible that was a redirect.

Again, I quote the relevant part of the dictionary:

Flagger
Aura: Unknown
At night, can select any player to protect (including themselves) and a player to target. Must select both or neither. Any normal (i.e., non-berserk) night attacks by evil/solo players against the protected player will be redirected to the targeted player. Wolf attacks can kill wolves and solo attacks can kill solos if their attacks are redirected to themselves. Wolf attacks still cannot kill solos. The flagger can successfully redirect up to two attacks per game. The flagger cannot redirect attacks in consecutive nights. The village will NOT be notified that an attack has been redirected. The flagger will know if their redirect is successful.

Now I quote the part where Local implied this was his fault:

Holy shit guys. I protected myself from death and targeted TD.

 

[Smacktard]

Very aggressive. Kind of lame to assume I don't have a good understanding of the roles, especially in my first game with a spreadsheet. I'm not sure why you're pivoting on me so hard.

I find it hard to believe that anyone, not just you specifically, would have a hard time digesting what Zell just said, and responding to it with a well-formatted, long post with so much detailed knowledge about the game, and in such a short time.

 

[Dean]

Dean, Tommy, Kat, Alu all running interference for Local.

Again, it's impossible that was a redirect.

Again, I quote the relevant part of the dictionary:


Now I quote the part where Local implied this was his fault:

I'm not running interference. My post had nothing to do with Local. I'm trying to figure out if the Ritualist is still alive or dead and whether we are boned or royally boned.

I already voted for Local Hero earlier, Kelly.

 

[Smacktard]

I already voted for Local Hero earlier, Kelly.

A lot of people did yesterday too, until his vote was supposed to go through and then they all mysteriously removed their votes.

I'm choosing to trust you for now.

 

[Local Hero]

Dean, Tommy, Kat, Alu all running interference for Local.

Again, it's impossible that was a redirect.

Again, I quote the relevant part of the dictionary:


Now I quote the part where Local implied this was his fault:

No implication. Merely statement of what night action I performed. It was going to be asked, so I answered proactively.

 

[Dean]

A lot of people did yesterday too, until his vote was supposed to go through and then they all mysteriously removed their votes.

I'm choosing to trust you for now.

I'm a really shitty player and should never be trusted, even after I've been confirmed as a good townie boy

 

[Local Hero]

I'm a really shitty player

 

[Dean]

I like to add an element of unpredictable stupidity that these games can lack and can really frustrate Coleman

 

[Smacktard]

There are 6 wolves and 7 townies left. Town needs to be completely united in our vote or the wolves steamroll us. And even then we need to get lucky with protects or killing roles.

 

[Dean]

Is anyone else interested in the theory that Cole is still alive past day 1 and therefore must be evil?

 

[Smacktard]

Is anyone else interested in the theory that Cole is still alive past day 1 and therefore must be evil?

I'm much more partial to the theory that Local Hero and Tubby are both Flaggers and that these wolf attacks are actually just a hoax.

 

[Dean]

I'm much more partial to the theory that Local Hero and Tubby are both Flaggers and that these wolf attacks are actually just a hoax.

So you're backing off the "Local Hero is definitely evil" stance and looking at Tommy Boy now?

 

[Smacktard]

So you're backing off the "Local Hero is definitely evil" stance and looking at Tommy Boy now?

no i was being sarcastic

 

[Smacktard]

the chances the half of the four random roles would both draw the same random role? and that one of them would falsely imply that he was the reason TD died?

nah brah

 

[Dean]

no i was being sarcastic

But you really don't trust Tommy?

 

[A Maybe Baker]

I'm fine with saying Local is a wolf, I just don't want you to do it by misrepresenting what was actually said.

We definitely don't have two flaggers.

Kelly, as librarian, have you done anything yet?

 

[Dean]

Switching lynch vote to Tubby23

 

[Local Hero]

that one of them would falsely imply that he was the reason TD died?

Bro. Call me a wolf all you want but I will not stand for this mischaracterization of my statement.