Zell Wolf GWF Zell Wolf Version VII-2: REBIRTH Night 3 / Day 3

[Zell 17]

Greetings friends,

The role dictionary can be found here:

Zell Wolf - Zell Wolf Role Dictionary and Hall of Fame

In an effort to consolidate, I'm going to list all the roles / potential roles along with DETAILED role information. In future games you would just get a PM from me that says "Your role is XXXX". Strong Villagers: Bully Aura: Unknown During the day, can hit a player with a rock and give them a...

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First, here is a list of players:

@Anal Anniversary Adventure Activities
@Benzine
@Cole
@Dean
@Jawneh
@Jon
@Kat
@Local Hero
@Raine
@Raposuh
@shortkut
@Smacktard
@TD
@Tommy Boy
@Tubby23
@VashTheStampede

And here are the roles:

Village team:
Aura Seer
Marksman
Ritualist
Warden
Witch
Tough Guy

Four villagers will get random roles from the "regular" villagers in the dictionary:

Wolf team:
Confusion Wolf
Guardian Wolf
Sorcerer
Werewolf Fan
Random Werewolf
Random Werewolf

The random werewolf can be any of the numbered wolves listed in the dictionary EXCEPT normal werewolf.

Rules:
Nights will be 12 hours and days will be 24 hours. The end of the next period will be clearly posted.

You may edit your posts for clarity. If you edit out an action (like shooting someone) and you get caught I'm killing you.

You have unlimited vote changes. This includes voting nobody. The day expiration time of 9 pm will be strictly enforced. If your post / vote is at 9 pm or later, it will be discarded. People can have a flurry of late vote changes to lynch someone, but of course the consequences of doing that will be noticed by the village. Only your last vote will be counted. Votes must be in Bold to be counted. Please vote in the format I vote XXXX to make it easy for me.

There will be a minimum number of votes required to lynch. Usually this number will be around the number of villagers / 2. In the event of a tie, nobody is lynched. In the event that the minimum number of votes is not reached, nobody is lynched.

Night events will go in the following priority order regardless of when the PMs are sent to me:

Wolf Nightmare activates
Wolf Shaman/Confusion activates
Medium/Ritualist revive spell
Wolves break out of warden prison
Wolf seer check
Blind Wolf check
Illusionist disguise
Beast Trap ensnares an evil
Flagger redirect
Doctor protect
Bodyguard protect
Witch protect
Tough Guy protect
Violinist check
Detective check
Aura Seer check
Voodoo wolf / Librarian mute
Marksman shot
Witch kill (if not killed by marksman, otherwise potion unused)
Jailer/Warden kill (if not killed by marksman/witch)
Red Lady visit
Revived players return from the dead (cannot be targeted by wolves/solo in same night)
Solo killer attack
Wolf berserk mode activates
Wolves kill
Spirit Seer/Sheriff check
Cupid selection

In the event that two of the same role perform the exact same action, they will both be credited.

Please do not talk about the game outside of the designated threads. This is honor system. When you die, you will gain access to a special forum that is already set up. The ritualist will have access to this forum at night. If you are revived by the ritualist, you will lose access. Please use this forum for all discussion by dead players about the game. Alive players can talk during the main thread during the day.

It is possible, if very unlikely, for the game to end in a tie if every single player is killed. The game also ends in a tie if there are no deaths for three straight days and nights.

Winning Conditions:

Village: Kill all wolves.

Wolves: Once the wolves make up half the total players, the wolves win, regardless of the roles remaining.

Day will begin at 6 pm ET.

 

[Zell 17]

Raposuh was killed by the witch! Raposuh was the Regular Werewolf.

Dean was killed by the werewolves. Dean was the Witch.

@Local Hero has been muted and cannot speak, react, or post today.

 

[Zell 17]

5 votes required to lynch. The day will end in 24 hours at 6 pm ET.

 

[Benzine]

Until about 10 minutes ago I had my res on Dean lmao. But I said he'd make the kill and maybe I can res someone more useful later. Sorry @Dean.

Vash wanted me to pass on a message and I was going to alter it tremendously, damnit.

 

[Benzine]

@Tommy Boy give us the juice

 

[Tubby23]

@Smacktard who did you silence?

 

[shortkut]

Only question now is do we vote Kelly or Cole?

 

[Tubby23]

Only question now is do we vote Kelly or Cole?

Scissors, paper, rock to decide?

 

[Zell 17]

Local Hero has been muted and cannot speak, react, or post today.

 

[Benzine]

Scissors, paper, rock to decide?

From this point to me, posts like this to muddy the waters and engage with wily characters like shortkut will be treated as negative points in my mind.

 

[Tubby23]

From this point to me, posts like this to muddy the waters and engage with wily characters like shortkut will be treated as negative points in my mind.

I'll accept the first bit, but can I not engage in game-based discussion?

 

[Benzine]

I'll accept the first bit, but can I not engage in game-based discussion?

Obviously but going paper scissors rock isn't that.

And also, make sure you do whatever you want, I'm not the boss of your fun.

 

[Kat]

I'll accept the first bit, but can I not engage in game-based discussion?

Speaking of, can we talk about that last minute vote switch of yours?! We're lucky the wolves didn't all hop over.

 

[Tubby23]

Obviously but going paper scissors rock isn't that.

And also, make sure you do whatever you want, I'm not the boss of your fun.

In my dreams you boss me round for fun.

But more seriously, I assume Kelly's intention with muting Local is that we would lynch him without delay? Do you agree.

 

[Kat]

You know.. assuming you're not also a wolf, because then they wouldn't have the numbers to do anything.

 

[Kat]

In my dreams you boss me round for fun.

But more seriously, I assume Kelly's intention with muting Local is that we would lynch him without delay? Do you agree.

You wanna lynch somebody who is either innocent or alpha wolf?

 

[Tubby23]

Speaking of, can we talk about that last minute vote switch of yours?! We're lucky the wolves didn't all hop over.

What can I say, I was wrong on Raposuh

 

[Benzine]

In my dreams you boss me round for fun.

But more seriously, I assume Kelly's intention with muting Local is that we would lynch him without delay? Do you agree.

I have no idea. I'll wait for Tomasi and Kelly.

 

[Tubby23]

You wanna lynch somebody who is either innocent or alpha wolf?

Do we even have confirmation an Alpha Wolf exists?

 

[shortkut]

Local Hero has been muted and cannot speak, react, or post today.

Hey guys! I looked at the role dictionary because this post by Zell made me suspicious. There are lots of wolf roles that are the same as townie roles, so I went to see if there is a wolf version of the librarian… and there is!

Now, is Kelly the librarian or the voodoo wolf

The only way Raposuh was the fan was if he was turned night 1, which is why there is no kill. Otherwise he resigned his powers to coordinate with the wolves so they can reach the 50% mark faster.

Biggest suspects are anyone who strongly tried to prevent lynching Raposuh. Might as well start with the loudest voice, who also had inconsistencies in his arguments

Vote @Cole

 

[Benzine]

There is not an alpha wolf. We know the wolf roles. The wolves are currently outing themselves in an attempt to sow confusion about decision making. Thank you.

 

[shortkut]

Do we even have confirmation an Alpha Wolf exists?

Local has unknown aura. The only wolf with an unknown aura is alpha. He claimed flagged which also has an unknown aura

 

[Kat]

Now, is Kelly the librarian or the voodoo wolf

Ooo, good catch, I didn't even notice that role was there.

Do we even have confirmation an Alpha Wolf exists?

Do you believe Tommy when he said Local is unknown? That means either townie or alpha.

 

[Kat]

There is not an alpha wolf. We know the wolf roles. The wolves are currently outing themselves in an attempt to sow confusion about decision making. Thank you.

I missed this. What's the last mystery role?

 

[Tubby23]

Do you believe Tommy when he said Local is unknown? That means either townie or alpha.

Honestly, I have no idea. It's seeming more likely as numbers dwindle that Tommy is being honest but it's not concrete for me yet

 

[Benzine]

 

[Kat]

Honestly, I have no idea. It's seeming more likely as numbers dwindle that Tommy is being honest but it's not concrete for me yet

... Then who is the guaranteed aura seer?

Benzine, I'm assuming the roles of the dead people checked out how we expected or you'd have said otherwise?

 

[Tubby23]

... Then who is the guaranteed aura seer?

Benzine, I'm assuming the roles of the dead people checked out how we expected or you'd have said otherwise?

I'm saying I don't know. I'm leaning further towards it being Tommy with time.

 

[Cole]

Hey guys! I looked at the role dictionary because this post by Zell made me suspicious. There are lots of wolf roles that are the same as townie roles, so I went to see if there is a wolf version of the librarian… and there is!

Now, is Kelly the librarian or the voodoo wolf

The only way Raposuh was the fan was if he was turned night 1, which is why there is no kill. Otherwise he resigned his powers to coordinate with the wolves so they can reach the 50% mark faster.

Biggest suspects are anyone who strongly tried to prevent lynching Raposuh. Might as well start with the loudest voice, who also had inconsistencies in his arguments

Vote @Cole

anyone, and I mean anyone other than Alu that claims they knew who was who is a liar.

with potentially shaman in play, Alu couldn't have even known 100%

the only "inconsistency" in my argument was about TD asking to be jailed, but I'm not the only one who ever saw it.

I'm glad I was wrong, but saying I'm a suspect because I didn't bandwagon some one we had zero proof on means nothing.

 

[Kat]

I'm saying I don't know. I'm leaning further towards it being Tommy with time.

I don't see how Tommy could be evil unless TD was actually the aura seer.

 

[Tubby23]

anyone, and I mean anyone other than Alu that claims they knew who was who is a liar.

with potentially shaman in play, Alu couldn't have even known 100%

the only "inconsistency" in my argument was about TD asking to be jailed, but I'm not the only one who ever saw it.

I'm glad I was wrong, but saying I'm a suspect because I didn't bandwagon some one we had zero proof on means nothing.

So if you had to pick one person to lynch, right now, who would it be?

 

[Tubby23]

I don't see how Tommy could be evil unless TD was actually the aura seer.

It's like 70-30, I'm just trying to remain open minded to the fact I could be wrong.

 

[Cole]

So if you had to pick one person to lynch, right now, who would it be?

I'm not sure. if Raposa was the fan and NOT the sorceror and he was covering for someone else, then there's still a whole world of options.

but Kelly leading a bandwagon he couldn't possibly know the result of has me suspicious still.

 

[shortkut]

I'm not sure. if Raposa was the fan and NOT the sorceror and he was covering for someone else, then there's still a whole world of options.

That just doesn’t seem likely. The wolves would have had to hit him on night 1 and the sorcerer or seer would have to stay silent for only Tommy and Raposuh to claim seer type roles. We know 100% there is a seer.

Now there could be some 5D chess going on where Alu is a wolf and he picks a powerless town role to claim. Raposuh accuses him, and either we rightfully lynch Alu, giving Raposuh credibility or we lynch Raposuh giving Alu credibility…

 

[shortkut]

@Benzine any theories from the dead?

Do you think Kelly is librarian or voodoo wolf?

Do you think Alu is what he claims to be or is this a setup where the wolves win regardless of who died?

 

[Benzine]

I'm not sure. if Raposa was the fan and NOT the sorceror and he was covering for someone else, then there's still a whole world of options.

 

[shortkut]

Can we just bandwagon our way to our doom already?

Vote skip!

 

[shortkut]

Sus list:

Cole, Kelly, Kat, tubby, local

That rounds out team wolf

 

[Tubby23]

Sus list:

Cole, Kelly, Kat, tubby, local

That rounds out team wolf

One of these is not like the others.

I regrettably protected Kelly last night. Sorry @Dean

 

[shortkut]

One of these is not like the others.

I regrettably protected Kelly last night. Sorry @Dean

 

[Cole]

That just doesn’t seem likely. The wolves would have had to hit him on night 1 and the sorcerer or seer would have to stay silent for only Tommy and Raposuh to claim seer type roles. We know 100% there is a seer.

Now there could be some 5D chess going on where Alu is a wolf and he picks a powerless town role to claim. Raposuh accuses him, and either we rightfully lynch Alu, giving Raposuh credibility or we lynch Raposuh giving Alu credibility…

that's not 5d chess. that's 1d tic tac toe.

the one Zell game I was a wolf, I had everyone claim everyone else's roles for exactly this reason. remember that was the game I claimed flower girl even though I wasn't the wolf that can block lynches?

wolves need aggression in this game. especially ONCE AGAIN with no fool.

I would definitely make a sacrifice play to ensure credibility for at least one of us. I'd be looking more at people that voted for raposa than didn't.

 

[shortkut]

 

[Tubby23]

Tubby's Sus-o-Meter:
Jawneh 8/10
Kat 7/10
Alu 6/10
shortkut 6/10
Smacktard 6/10
Local Hero 5/10
Tommy 5/10
Cole 5/10
Jon 5/10
Benzine 2/10

 

[finlandguy]

Before addressing last night and everything else, did yall just see that kut went and actually read the role list?! The heck is this?!

 

[finlandguy]

That just doesn’t seem likely. The wolves would have had to hit him on night 1 and the sorcerer or seer would have to stay silent for only Tommy and Raposuh to claim seer type roles. We know 100% there is a seer.

Actually, this isn't true. If we look at the role order, the fan would've been converted last well after aura seer check. The seer sees good, but is from then on evil. It definitely could've happened night 1.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

that's not 5d chess. that's 1d tic tac toe.

the one Zell game I was a wolf, I had everyone claim everyone else's roles for exactly this reason. remember that was the game I claimed flower girl even though I wasn't the wolf that can block lynches?

wolves need aggression in this game. especially ONCE AGAIN with no fool.

I would definitely make a sacrifice play to ensure credibility for at least one of us. I'd be looking more at people that voted for raposa than didn't.

Why set up a sacrifice when literally one wrong lynch yesterday could have led to a win today?

 

[finlandguy]

Hey dead person, no sussing beyond the grave. Hush.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Actually, this isn't true. If we look at the role order, the fan would've been converted last well after aura seer check. The seer sees good, but is from then on evil. It definitely could've happened night 1.

He's not talking about it being possible, he's talking about the likelihood of it. There's a confirmed aura seer and a confirmed sorcerer and only 2 people came out to claim them. The likelihood that there's someone who hasn't done something with it by this point is very low.

Again, I would have been upgraded to a more useful role if a seer died by this point.

 

[Cole]

Why set up a sacrifice when literally one wrong lynch yesterday could have led to a win today?

plans F through Z?

maybe the wolves didn't believe they could've gotten the votes for someone that wasn't them, who knows why people do anything in this game?

and also there's still at least one person that hasn't claimed a damn thing.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Now the question is this:

Is Kelly the librarian or the wolf equivalent? He was very quick to jump on my side yesterday, which left me uneasy for a bit, but it worked out.

If he's truly the librarian, then we have a confirmed librarian, me as seer apprentice.

Anything else "confirmed" at this point?

It seems decently likely that Raposa sacrificed his powers to get the wolf numbers to try and win earlier, which leads me to believe the fan was crazily caught on the very first night, which would mean kat was lying.