Zell Wolf Wolf day 3

[finlandguy]

Nope. I haven't moved it. Which is good in a way as I had considered moving it on Vash or Zell on day 1. After that I figured I'll just go with my original spot.

 

[canadaguy]

I agree that it's most likely one or the other.

UNLESS


The town was quite adamant that both "doctors" protect me, so if they were both wolves, it'd be in their best interest to not kill me, since the jig would up

 

[canadaguy]

Nope. I haven't moved it. Which is good in a way as I had considered moving it on Vash or Zell on day 1. After that I figured I'll just go with my original spot.

And I presume you will not be divulging said spot of course

 

[Benzine]

dimmerwit has been shot by canadaguy. dw was the Guardian Wolf.

 

[Local Hero]

Now, two left.
shortkut
Ben
Kat
Jawneh

We have 5 left.
If we lynch a townie and they kill a townie it's 3 to 2, even then we should win.

I say let's saying for the fences, I vote Ben

 

[canadaguy]

Now, two left.
shortkut
Ben
Kat
Jawneh

We have 5 left.
If we lynch a townie and they kill a townie it's 3 to 2, even then we should win.

I say let's saying for the fences, I vote Ben

With the voodoo still in play, 3 to 2 is troublesome. Does muting also preventing voting?

 

[shortkut]

With the voodoo still in play, 3 to 2 is troublesome. Does muting also preventing voting?

It does. But hitting the dimmerwolf, I mean guardian wolf, allows us to lynch one

 

[Zell 17]

So here’s the part where I tell you the last two wolves are Voodoo and Alpha. Since Jawneh has claimed an unknown role I’m voting him off as the presumed Alpha.

 

[Zell 17]

With the voodoo still in play, 3 to 2 is troublesome. Does muting also preventing voting?

Yeah it would. We have to be accurate today.

 

[Local Hero]

So here’s the part where I tell you the last two wolves are Voodoo and Alpha. Since Jawneh has claimed an unknown role I’m voting him off as the presumed Alpha.

I trust your intuition.

It would be like Jawneh to finally be trustworthy when he's a wolf

 

[shortkut]

Yeah it would. We have to be accurate today.

I’m concerned about the voodoo wolf since they can prevent a townie from voting. If we get even one wrong lynch at any point, the wolves should be able to win

 

[Local Hero]

Only shortkut, Zell, CG, and I had any votes on anyone.

Which I think means we're townies. At this point in the game, a wolf might risk undue attention if they start off voting for townies

 

[Local Hero]

I'm going with Ben and Jawneh as wolves. That feels right

 

[shortkut]

I'm going with Ben and Jawneh as wolves. That feels right

the question is do we want the voodoo wolf or the alpha wolf

If we get the alpha, they still have 2 votes tomorrow, a kill tonight, and a mute tonight

If we kill the voodoo wolf, they only have 1 vote and 1 kill

 

[Zell 17]

the question is do we want the voodoo wolf or the alpha wolf

If we get the alpha, they still have 2 votes tomorrow, a kill tonight, and a mute tonight

If we kill the voodoo wolf, they only have 1 vote and 1 kill

It doesn't matter which we get now as long as we bag one.

 

[shortkut]

Do the numbers work if a protection fails?

 

[Zell 17]

Do the numbers work if a protection fails?

I mean let's just walk through it:

If we hit an alpha today:
Night 4: 5 town, 2 wolves (Alpha 1 life)
Day 4: 4 town (3 votes), 2 wolves (Alpha 1 life)
Night 5: 4 town, 1 wolf
Day 5: 3 town (2 votes), 1 wolf
Game

If we hit voodoo today:
Night 4: 5 town, 1 wolf
Day 4: 4 town, 1 wolf
Night 5: 4 town, 1 wolf (Alpha 1 life)
Day 5: 3 town, 1 wolf
Game

Let's assume we hit the Alpha today. We will put one doc on me, and one doc on Local in perpetuity. If me or Local die, we know which "doc" to kill.

 

[shortkut]

I mean let's just walk through it:

If we hit an alpha today:
Night 4: 5 town, 2 wolves (Alpha 1 life)
Day 4: 4 town (3 votes), 2 wolves (Alpha 1 life)
Night 5: 4 town, 1 wolf
Day 5: 3 town (2 votes), 1 wolf
Game

If we hit voodoo today:
Night 4: 5 town, 1 wolf
Day 4: 4 town, 1 wolf
Night 5: 4 town, 1 wolf (Alpha 1 life)
Day 5: 3 town, 1 wolf
Game

Let's assume we hit the Alpha today. We will put one doc on me, and one doc on Local in perpetuity. If me or Local die, we know which "doc" to kill.

You only know which doc to kill if they get on board. Ben is searching his name so he’ll comment. Kat hasn’t commented yet

 

[Ben]

You only know which doc to kill if they get on board. Ben is searching his name so he’ll comment. Kat hasn’t commented yet

Oh fuck off. I'm not searching for shit, but now I'm sick of even reading the thread and replying because you're just going to call me a passenger anyway.

Do what you want, I don't care if the town loses anymore.

 

[shortkut]

Oh fuck off. I'm not searching for shit, but now I'm sick of even reading the thread and replying because you're just going to call me a passenger anyway.

Do what you want, I don't care if the town loses anymore.

I mean nothing by it. I’ll stop posting now because in successive days I’ve upset Alu and you

 

[Zell 17]

Oh fuck off. I'm not searching for shit, but now I'm sick of even reading the thread and replying because you're just going to call me a passenger anyway.

Do what you want, I don't care if the town loses anymore.

Hey man I know you aren’t feeling well so let me try to make it easy: you don’t need to read anything else all day.

Vote Jawneh today
Protect Local tonight
Take the rest of the day off

 

[canadaguy]

Vote Jawneh today

Don't have to tell me twice

 

[finlandguy]

Well, I don't really got much to say in my defense considering my role. Though I need to try to do that so that we don't lose the game.

First, if I was an alpha, would  I fake being the most obvious role for an alpha to fake? Y'all know me better than that.

Second, I want to bring attention to Kat. Considering this is probably the most important day for the wolves, they are very likely to be faking a mute. We're not low enough in townies that muting affects lynches, so what to do? Having been a wolf with Kat in previous games she is definitely susceptible to shenanigans if suggested.

Are to wolves Kat and Ben or Kat and Kut, idk. It's not this guy though.

 

[Zell 17]

Well, I don't really got much to say in my defense considering my role. Though I need to try to do that so that we don't lose the game.

First, if I was an alpha, would  I fake being the most obvious role for an alpha to fake? Y'all know me better than that.

Second, I want to bring attention to Kat. Considering this is probably the most important day for the wolves, they are very likely to be faking a mute. We're not low enough in townies that muting affects lynches, so what to do? Having been a wolf with Kat in previous games she is definitely susceptible to shenanigans if suggested.

Are to wolves Kat and Ben or Kat and Kut, idk. It's not this guy though.

Day 1 was your chance to try and establish some credibility with an unprovable unknown role

 

[finlandguy]

Day 1 was your chance to try and establish some credibility with an unprovable unknown role

Have Ben or Kat done that? All three of us are in the same boat.

 

[Local Hero]

Everyone's in the same boat, with the difference being your townie aura is unknown, which increases the chance that the alpha picked it to hide

 

[Zell 17]

Everyone's in the same boat, with the difference being your townie aura is unknown, which increases the chance that the alpha picked it to hide

Kat and to a lesser extent Ben both claimed Doc on day 1. Also the wolf targets make it very clear that there is at least one real doc, meaning one of the Jawneh/shortkut duo must be a wolf.

Yet even though we know one of them for sure is furry, neither of them are pushing or even voting the other.

 

[finlandguy]

Kat and to a lesser extent Ben both claimed Doc on day 1. Also the wolf targets make it very clear that there is at least one real doc, meaning one of the Jawneh/shortkut duo must be a wolf.

Yet even though we know one of them for sure is furry, neither of them are pushing or even voting the other.

I did claim beast hunter day 1 though. Not directly, but I did. I've gone through a poem day 1, a haiku day 2, and a limerick now. Go check it. It's there.

My hands are tied. Unless the four of you are willing to believe me there's not much I can do to help. At best if there's 1 doctor there and they choose to protect the correct person we will still have a shot.

The best I can give without helping the wolves out is to say that my trap is not on Kat. Considering I haven't moved it it makes no difference in determining if she's a wolf or not. Best case is that she's a wolf and we still have a trap and one protection if Ben is a real doc.

 

[Local Hero]

@Benzine

Skip

 

[finlandguy]

It's becoming increasingly clear to me in these last two games, in two different scenarios, that unless you banged in hard on day 1, it makes very little difference what happens the rest of the game unless you're a proven townie. You're just there for the ride. Any agency left is with the wolves. I'm not salty or about to stop playing or anything. It's just the way the game is, or how we all play it, that is against how I enjoy playing.

Ah well. Onto waiting for the next one for me.

 

[Local Hero]

It's becoming increasingly clear to me in these last two games, in two different scenarios, that unless you banged in hard on day 1, it makes very little difference what happens the rest of the game unless you're a proven townie. You're just there for the ride. Any agency left is with the wolves. I'm not salty or about to stop playing or anything. It's just the way the game is, or how we all play it, that is against how I enjoy playing.

Ah well. Onto waiting for the next one for me.

I'm sorry friend. We just have no info. What do you recommend?

 

[finlandguy]

I'm sorry friend. We just have no info. What do you recommend?

My vote would be between kut, Kat, and Ben. I feel the most towards Kat myself as I think they're faking a mute. I threw my vote on Ben for now as there was already one vote on him.

Besides voting for one of them, I've got no ideas for today. We got 1 trap, maybe 1 protection, and Zell's check tonight. If we miss a wolf, we have to hit a protection tonight.

 

[Local Hero]

I didn't even think about the voodoo angle for Kat.

Either way, it's all speculation

 

[finlandguy]

That's true. It just feels like I tend to be on the side of not being believe more often than not. Granted, there's been quite a few times when it was warranted too, so it's not like I don't understand that side of it.

 

[Ben]

@Benzine skip

 

[Local Hero]

That's true. It just feels like I tend to be on the side of not being believe more often than not. Granted, there's been quite a few times when it was warranted too, so it's not like I don't understand that side of it.

In this game you were actually incredibly well believed. It was only until today I think it turned

 

[finlandguy]

In this game you were actually incredibly well believed. It was only until today I think it turned

But nothing changed? If you or Zell brought info the dead against me, I'd understand it more. Today it was just decided after dimmer was shot that "hey you, guy who was fine so far, you're next lol."

 

[Local Hero]

But nothing changed? If you or Zell brought info the dead against me, I'd understand it more. Today it was just decided after dimmer was shot that "hey you, guy who was fine so far, you're next lol."

The thing that changed was Zell coming back from the dead thread.

My intuition was Ben, but who the hell knows

 

[shortkut]

I’ll skip because I know what I’m doing and I don’t want to hold up the thread. I have no comments about anyone’s innocence or guilt at this time

 

[Benzine]

how many skips

 

[shortkut]

how many skips

More than 1, less than 20

 

[Benzine]

you're such an annoying twat

 

[Local Hero]

So far only me and shortkut

 

[Benzine]

oh it's hard to hit hte tone right on the internet - you are such an annoying twat

 

[shortkut]

you're such an annoying twat

That’s the consensus this game

 

[shortkut]

I need a conversion table for American to Kiwi insults. I know cunt is really bad for Americans but almost a term of endearment for Kiwis. I don’t know where twat falls

 

[Local Hero]

That’s the consensus this game

 

[shortkut]

 

[Local Hero]

I need a conversion table for American to Kiwi insults. I know cunt is really bad for Americans but almost a term of endearment for Kiwis. I don’t know where twat falls

I feel like mainly Brits day twat, so it's probably especially bad for a New Zealander to call you that

 

[shortkut]