Nintendo Switch 2

[Fool's Requiem]

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Mario Kart will probably be the system's best seller, too, just like the Wii U. Then again, Mario Kart was also the Switch's best seller.

You have to go back to the Gamecube before encountering a Nintendo console that didn't have Mario Kart as it's best seller (non-pack-in). Or the DS, if you include handhelds.

 

[dimmerwit]

 

[finlandguy]

Mario Kart will probably be the system's best seller, too, just like the Wii U. Then again, Mario Kart was also the Switch's best seller.

You have to go back to the Gamecube before encountering a Nintendo console that didn't have Mario Kart as it's best seller (non-pack-in). Or the DS, if you include handhelds.

From the looks of the sales numbers from the official Nintendo JP site, all the #1 game sales have also been the bundled game with the console. So... a good number of those games are just a tag along. I got Mario Kart 8, but barely played it on my Switch. Just got it since it made sense for the price and I think the bundle also had the two tone JoyCons instead of just black.

I'm not saying Mario Karts haven't sold very well stand alone, but paying $20-30 for a game instead of $60+ for it individually makes more sense. Unless you really just don't want that game at all. I did it for Switch and GameCube I believe.

 

[finlandguy]

I just realized you did also say the same thing in less words in the second line. My brain ignored that part apparently lol.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

So, I was told [by a Game Stop employee] that Nintendo intends to include the full games on the carts, but third party companies mat not.

Also, pre-orders were supposedly suspended for now. Its likely a reaction to the tarrifs and are probably going to limit the number of systems to the US.

Luckily, I have never purchased a system on launch, and I can just play Fatal Fury on Steam, so there is no rush. Especially since Metroid Prime 4 is still a Switch 1 release.

 

[dimmerwit]

Pre-orders suspended in Canada as well.

 

[Smacktard]

Pre-orders suspended in Canada as well.

wut why

 

[dimmerwit]

They didn't say. My guess would be some kind of shipping issue since North America has always been treated as a single market, but I don't know for sure.

 

[dimmerwit]

(or maybe to stop Americans from buying them all to bypass tariffs)

 

[Smacktard]

(or maybe to stop Americans from buying them all to bypass tariffs)

Solution: ship more to Canada and let them hop the border to spite Drumpfuck

 

[canadaguy]

"Pre-orders for Nintendo Switch 2 in Canada will not start on April 9, 2025 in order to align with the timing of pre-orders to be determined in the U.S.," Nintendo of Canada said in a statement

They didn't say. My guess would be some kind of shipping issue since North America has always been treated as a single market, but I don't know for sure.

But this is just preordering, not shipping.

 

[dimmerwit]

But this is just preordering, not shipping.

I meant internal Nintendo shipping. It's quite common for Canadian consoles to come in from Asia through the USA.

 

[dimmerwit]

I ended up ordering one. I can always cancel, so I'll just continue to keep an eye on things.

 

[Tommy Boy]

Be advised: If you go through Nintendo and cancel your pre-order, you will be unable to reserve another one using their system. Someone on Reddit found out the hard way after removing it from his cart.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

 

[dimmerwit]

Bloomberg reporting that Nintendo imported a million consoles from Vietnam in January and February. Apparently 100% of the Vietnamese production (1/3 of the total) went to the USA.

Vietnam had a 46% tariff. I expect they will rush consoles in during the 90 day pause.

 

[Quagmire]

Nintendo confirms $90 price for full Breath of the Wild experience on Switch 2

Nintendo has confirmed the DLC for The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild on the Switch 2 isn't included in the $70 price tag; it's an extra $20.

www.tweaktown.com

 

[Fool's Requiem]

super weird that if you already have BotW that it'll only cost 10 bucks to get you the Switch 2 version, but if you want to buy the Switch 2 version outright with the DLC, it'll cost 90 bucks. So basically, get a used copy of the Switch 1 game, buy the DLC and Switch 2 patch and you'll probably save like 25-30 bucks.

 

[Quagmire]

super weird that if you already have BotW that it'll only cost 10 bucks to get you the Switch 2 version, but if you want to buy the Switch 2 version outright with the DLC, it'll cost 90 bucks. So basically, get a used copy of the Switch 1 game, buy the DLC and Switch 2 patch and you'll probably save like 25-30 bucks.

Yeah makes no sense, but someone looking to gift it is not likely to do that

 

[finlandguy]

Amusingly, unless there's a (non-existing) sale on either Zelda or their DLC, both of them will end up being the same price. For Switch 1, BoTW is $60 and DLC is $20 bundled. Throw in the $10 upgrade and you're at the $90. I didn't check ToTK, but I imagine it's the same.

Welp.

 

[Tommy Boy]

True gamers know the only real BOTW experience is on the Wii U.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

True gamers know the only real BOTW experience is on the Wii U.

it's the only version I own

 

[dimmerwit]

Canadian pre-orders to start on the 23rd according to a reliable leaker. Still no news on the USA.

 

[Tommy Boy]

I will admit that the discovery of the TES Oblivion remaster being real has totally quelled my anxiety/anticipation for this console release. I will at least have something I know I can sink hours into if the S2 is unavailable at launch, or if I got somehow priced out lol

 

[dimmerwit]

Mario Kart World direct in just under half an hour.

 

[Tommy Boy]

Nintendo Maintains Nintendo Switch 2 Pricing, Retail Pre-Orders to Begin April 24 in U.S. - News - Nintendo Official Site

Retail pre-orders for Nintendo Switch 2 will begin on April 24, 2025. At launch, the price for Nintendo Switch 2 in the U.S. will remain as announced on April 2 at $449.99, and the Nintendo Switch 2 + Mario Kart World bundle will remain as announced…

www.nintendo.com

Better news than the direct yesterday lol. Accessories took a big hit, but if that's what they're doing to keep the console price down, I'm for it.

 

[dimmerwit]

We might even see early adopters get a better price on the system itself. Here in Europe the PS5 RRP price has only gone up.

 

[finlandguy]

Who knows, maybe the first wave of Switch 2 will also be much easier to jailbreak in the future.

Something to keep in mind.

 

[dimmerwit]

My paperclip is ready!

 

[Smacktard]

We might even see early adopters get a better price on the system itself. Here in Europe the PS5 RRP price has only gone up.

Oh shit that's a good point. Hasn't considered that.

...but I still think I'll wait for the inevitable pro model or whatever

 

[Quagmire]

I will admit that the discovery of the TES Oblivion remaster being real has totally quelled my anxiety/anticipation for this console release. I will at least have something I know I can sink hours into if the S2 is unavailable at launch, or if I got somehow priced out lol

Can I interest you in one Kingdom Come Deliverance 2?

 

[dimmerwit]

Bloomberg reporting 6-8 million consoles available at launch. Seems like supply at least should be decent.

 

[dimmerwit]

Some of the last technical specs of the consoles have been confirmed. A lot has been known for a while - the chip first leaked in June 2021 after all.

	Switch 2	Switch
CPU Architecture	8x ARM Cortex A78C	4x ARM Cortex A57
CPU Clocks	998MHz (docked), 1101MHz (mobile), max 1.7GHz	1020 MHz (docked/mobile), max 1.785GHz
CPU System Reservation	2 cores (6 available to developers)	1 core (3 available to developers)
GPU Architecture	Ampere	Maxwell
CUDA Cores	1536	256
GPU Clocks	1007MHz (docked), 561MHz (mobile), Max 1.4GHz	768MHz (docked), up to 460MHz (mobile), Max 921MHz
GPU Flops	3072 GFLOPS (docked), 1710 GFLOPS (mobile)	393 GFLOPS (docked), up to 236 GFLOPS (mobile)
Memory/Interface	128-bit/LPDDR5	64-bit/LPDDR4
Memory Bandwidth	102GB/s (docked), 68GB/s (mobile)	25.6GB/s (docked), 21.3GB/s (mobile)
Memory System Reservation	3GB (9GB available for games)	0.8GB (3.2GB available for games)

 

[Fool's Requiem]

only 2 CPU cores?! what fucking year is this? 2008?

Edit: Outside of that, most of this looks like a sizable improvement.

 

[dimmerwit]

only 2 CPU cores?! what fucking year is this? 2008?

Edit: Outside of that, most of this looks like a sizable improvement.

2 CPU cores for the system. 6 for the games.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

ok, that works

 

[Fool's Requiem]

how do these numbers compare to PS5 and Series X?

Edit: Xbox Series X/S is using TFLOPS for their GPU... Switch 2 is still a massive step down...

Xbox CPU is running at 3.8GHz... over twice as much as the Switch 2 with the same number of total cores.

 

[Kat]

how do these numbers compare to PS5 and Series X?

Edit: Xbox Series X/S is using TFLOPS for their GPU... Switch 2 is still a massive step down...

Xbox CPU is running at 3.8GHz... over twice as much as the Switch 2 with the same number of total cores.

I've heard Switch 2 is more comparable to last gen, so probably better to compare it to PS4 and whatever the last gen Xbox was called (their naming scheme is even worse than Nintendo's). I think even then it falls a bit short. It definitely isn't competitive technically with current gen systems.

 

[dimmerwit]

I'd put it somewhere between PS4 and PS4 Pro. Maybe DLSS will help close the gap. Cyberpunk 2077 on Switch 2 includes the Phantom Liberty DLC that they said they wouldn't bring to PS4/Xbox One because it was too much.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Looks like it's slightly more powerful than a regular Xbox One but less powerful than the Xbox One X (which is pretty much the "pro" version.

Switch 2 supposedly supports Ray Tracing, which the Xbox One didnt.

 

[shortkut]

Does it really matter if it doesn’t match up with the other systems spec wise? The games made for it work without lag

 

[dimmerwit]

Looks like it's slightly more powerful than a regular Xbox One but less powerful than the Xbox One X (which is pretty much the "pro" version.

Switch 2 supposedly supports Ray Tracing, which the Xbox One didnt.

Yes, it has 20 Gigarays per second in docked mode. The PS5 has 80, although again those are theoretical numbers that are not really directly comparable. Knowing about Nvidia vs. old AMD numbers I'd wager the gap is smaller than that, and the PS5 is a mediocre RT performer. That said, RT hits other components hard, mainly the CPU and VRAM, so I'm not sure how much RT we will see.

It also has DLSS which Switch 1 obviously didn't.

It's an Ampere part (RTX 3000 equivalent) with a backported media engine from Ada Lovelace (RTX 4000) and a custom file decompression system (for load times). This was one of the reasons people were sceptical of the leaks since it's essentially a mid/late 2021 product, but that's what we got.

 

[Kat]

Does it really matter if it doesn’t match up with the other systems spec wise? The games made for it work without lag

Better specs means the games made for it can be better, so it does matter to some extent, yeah. I agree they're plenty good enough though.

 

[shortkut]

Better specs means the games made for it can be better, so it does matter to some extent, yeah. I agree they're plenty good enough though.

But the games are designed for the specs of the system not the other way around. It just sounds like a lazy way to compare systems and say one is better than the other