Zell Wolf GWF Zell Wolf Version VII-2: REBIRTH Night 2 / Day 2

[A Maybe Baker]

I'm not sure what weight you think that holds. but people had seemed to settle on Tommy until Kelly comes out of no where to continue to control the narrative, and a whole bunch of people fell in line behind him.

And what weight does that hold when the prime reason people were voting for Tommy was because you believe his read of TD was what led directly to the berserk attack that just happened to luckily get the warden as well, when in reality TD asked to be put in jail and the primary reason for the berserk attack was to kill two birds with one stone?

The argument against Tommy got flimsier, and people stopped voting for him.

 

[Jawneh]

I don't remember this, what was the result of his check?

I don't got to talk to you. Go and take a heck at the corner over there.

.... but in case others are wondering, it was the dozen good eggs comment. Kelly being the dozen as in #12.

 

[Tommy Boy]

I don't remember this, what was the result of his check?

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[Jon]

I don't remember this, what was the result of his check?

If I recall, "Good." Which lines up with the fan theory.

But also calls into question if Raposuh lied about Alu... he could have lied about Kelly...

 

[Raposuh]

I don't remember this, what was the result of his check?

I checked 12 the first night and got a good aura back. Posted at 0630 CDT Sunday morning stating I'd got a dozen good eggs last night. Dozen. Good.

The I gave Tubby the lazy eye. Or he gave me the lazy eye, I don't remember. It's all there in the record!

 

[Local Hero]

I don't got to talk to you. Go and take a heck at the corner over there.

.... but in case others are wondering, it was the dozen good eggs comment. Kelly being the dozen as in #12.

 

[Smacktard]

But also calls into question if Raposuh lied about Alu... he could have lied about Kelly...

inb4 you reach the conclusion that if Raposa was lying, you should instead vote for the person he was lying about, who currently has no chance of being voted off

 

[Jawneh]

So @Tommy Boy , as the other (or third now I guess) on the forefront, thoughts on beyond switching from you to Raposa?

Or anyone else on the fan theory. I don't thunk I'm completely nuts with this.

 

[Raposuh]

inb4 you reach the conclusion that if Raposa was lying, you should instead vote for the person he was lying about, who currently has no chance of being voted off

Last post right? I can't get hammered before noon Kelly!

 

[A Maybe Baker]

If I recall, "Good." Which lines up with the fan theory.

But also calls into question if Raposuh lied about Alu... he could have lied about Kelly...

It would be strange to play the sorcerer as anything other than the aura seer to start the game. You gain trust of the town one at a time by confirming actual auras.

Also, he did that before Tommy or anyone else claimed aura seer. Lying off the bat when someone might come out and disprove you later is a risky endeavor.

This doesn't prove Kelly's innocence, but it would be strange to have lied on day 1 like that when there could have been up to 5 aura seers about.

 

[Cole]

And what weight does that hold when the prime reason people were voting for Tommy was because you believe his read of TD was what led directly to the berserk attack that just happened to luckily get the warden as well, when in reality TD asked to be put in jail and the primary reason for the berserk attack was to kill two birds with one stone?

The argument against Tommy got flimsier, and people stopped voting for him.

they don't have to be mutually exclusive. Tommy still could've revealed TD, I never even saw TDs post asking to be jailed.

you guys are still trusting Kelly based on nothing except for Raposas word. you think Raposa is evil, but have completely eliminated the possibility that he could have very easily lied to clear Kelly. And if Raposa gets saved by Guardian, you'll know it. clearing Kelly, but then when there was no group consensus on who to lynch, they switch to a sacrifice knowing Guardian is still in play.

 

[Smacktard]

Last post right? I can't get hammered before noon Kelly!

Says who?

Have one for me!

Last post.

 

[Jon]

inb4 you reach the conclusion that if Raposa was lying, you should instead vote for the person he was lying about, who currently has no chance of being voted off

Which... I am not doing... so can this please be your last post now?

It would be strange to play the sorcerer as anything other than the aura seer to start the game. You gain trust of the town one at a time by confirming actual auras.

Also, he did that before Tommy or anyone else claimed aura seer. Lying off the bat when someone might come out and disprove you later is a risky endeavor.

This doesn't prove Kelly's innocence, but it would be strange to have lied on day 1 like that when there could have been up to 5 aura seers about.

Fair.

 

[Smacktard]

Which... I am not doing... so can this please be your last post now?

No, this one was:

Says who?

Have one for me!

Last post.

 

[Local Hero]

 

[A Maybe Baker]

they don't have to be mutually exclusive. Tommy still could've revealed TD, I never even saw TDs post asking to be jailed.

you guys are still trusting Kelly based on nothing except for Raposas word. you think Raposa is evil, but have completely eliminated the possibility that he could have very easily lied to clear Kelly. And if Raposa gets saved by Guardian, you'll know it. clearing Kelly, but then when there was no group consensus on who to lynch, they switch to a sacrifice knowing Guardian is still in play.

I'm voting for Raposa because I don't have an evil aura. It's that simple.

 

[Kat]

I just woke up, I gotta admit I didn't read most of this. It looks like we're switching targets though.

I vote Raposuh.

 

[Tubby23]

The wolves playing us

 

[Jon]

I will also ask again: Could we be walking directly into a trap since we do not know what the other random wolf role is? Am I really the ONLY one concerned about that?

 

[Tubby23]

Vote Tommy Boy

 

[Kat]

I will also ask again: Could we be walking directly into a trap since we do not know what the other random wolf role is? Am I really the ONLY one concerned about that?

Like what kind of trap?

 

[Cole]

I'm voting for Raposa because I don't have an evil aura. It's that simple.

yes yes "accuse the person who accused me", its always the right play. never backfires ever.

 

[Jon]

Like what kind of trap?

I don't know all the wolf roles... but Avenger comes to mind pretty clearly...

 

[Raposuh]

Says who?

Have one for me!

Last post.

Better break out the hidden tequila in my desk.

 

[Tommy Boy]

So @Tommy Boy , as the other (or third now I guess) on the forefront, thoughts on beyond switching from you to Raposa?

Or anyone else on the fan theory. I don't thunk I'm completely nuts with this.

I was pretty thorough from page 11 onwards, but if I survive the night phase, I'd likely heavily rely on my check tonight. I don't like accusing someone based on vibes, and at this point I've only been trying to defend myself and my own words and wouldn't know who to accuse next. I'd probably go back to page 9-12 and focus on the people who were trying to nitpick my logic and defenses. But if I'm wrong about Raposa being the sorcerer I'm as good as dead tomorrow. I just don't believe there are two Aura Seers.

 

[Local Hero]

Vote Tommy Boy

 

[Local Hero]

 

[Tubby23]

@Zell 17 if they both get 6 votes can we lynch both?

 

[Zell 17]

Votes to lynch (6 required):

Raposuh - 8 (Alu, Smacktard, Benzine, Dean, Tommy Boy, shortkut, Jon, Kat)
Tommy Boy - 3 (Cole, Raposuh, Tubby23)
Smacktard - 2 (Jawneh, Local Hero)

Votes to skip (12 required):
No vote - 13 (Alu, Benzine, Cole, Dean, Jawneh, Jon, Kat, Local Hero, Raposuh, shortkut, Smacktard, Tommy Boy, Tubby23)

 

[A Maybe Baker]

I will also ask again: Could we be walking directly into a trap since we do not know what the other random wolf role is? Am I really the ONLY one concerned about that?

I've mentioned the possibility of a Shaman off the bat.

yes yes "accuse the person who accused me", its always the right play. never backfires ever.

Seems to have worked this time, going by the vote totals.

 

[Zell 17]

@Zell 17 if they both get 6 votes can we lynch both?

If the village ties there is no lynch

 

[A Maybe Baker]

@Zell 17 if they both get 6 votes can we lynch both?

No.

 

[Tommy Boy]

Take note that I responded and pushed back against anyone going against me in those pages. Anyone who pointed the finger at me but then didn't respond to my defenses and "let it go" because it stopped making sense would be someone I'd look into. It got real quiet after I posted the screenshot of my chart, had my long post, etc. Granted, it was in the early AM, but there was plenty to dissect and ask more about. That can't be ignored. Just re-read from page 11 onward if you're still on the fence about me.

 

[Cole]

I've mentioned the possibility of a Shaman off the bat.

Seems to have worked this time, going by the vote totals.

except for the part where you're basing your decisions off someone that was cleared by someone you think is evil.

 

[Tubby23]

If the village ties there is no lynch

But what if one has 7 and the other has 6

 

[Jawneh]

We're venturing into my insane territory now, but Kelly. Self sacrifice is a beautiful thing especially when you got a fairly vanilla town role. You have to agree that you're just a glorified anti-TD role if you're the librarian, right? This is the way to freedom and truly finding out who you are.

Like a reverse Witch hunt kind of, where you just walk into the pyre and say "yo Dawgs, I ain't no hag."

 

[Local Hero]

Take note that I responded and pushed back against anyone going against me in those pages. Anyone who pointed the finger at me but then didn't respond to my defenses and "let it go" because it stopped making sense would be someone I'd look into. It got real quiet after I posted the screenshot of my chart, had my long post, etc. Granted, it was in the early AM, but there was plenty to dissect and ask more about. That can't be ignored. Just re-read from page 11 onward if you're still on the fence about me.

Just do some extensive research in the next 8 minutes ngb

 

[Local Hero]

But what if one has 7 and the other has 6

Do you know how numbers work?

Big number > small number

 

[Jon]

But what if one has 7 and the other has 6

I mean I'm no mathematician, but that's not a tie.

 

[Tommy Boy]

Just do some executive research in the night 8 minutes ngb

 

[Tubby23]

Do you know how numbers work?

Big number > small number

Instructions unclear 6 votes required to lynch, technically both could/should be

 

[Local Hero]

I vote @Tubby23

 

[A Maybe Baker]

except for the part where you're basing your decisions off someone that was cleared by someone you think is evil.

How are you still able to ignore the fact that I'm voting because I don't have an evil aura. It has literally 0 to do with Kelly.

Either Raposa lied or there's a shaman. Your theory on why Tommy is more likely to be the sorcerer fell apart once it came back up that TD asked to be jailed VERY publicly and overtly.

 

[Jon]

Instructions unclear 6 votes required to lynch, technically both could/should be

I think the 6 required just means that at least six of us need to vote for the person.

Though, given 13 people left, I would think 7 would be the required number for majority, but meh.

 

[Tubby23]

I mean I'm no mathematician, but that's not a tie.

Never said tie just what if both have 6 votes or more technically both should be lynched

 

[Zell 17]

Instructions unclear 6 votes required to lynch, technically both could/should be

The person who has the most votes gets lynched. That person needs to have at least 6 votes.

 

[Kat]

Instructions unclear 6 votes required to lynch, technically both could/should be

I think that's just a minimum and most votes still wins, especially if a tie doesn't do it.

 

[Kat]

Too bad, it's a good idea.

 

[Tubby23]

So there's no way we can just kill both and have this argument finished gotcha

 

[Smacktard]

All of these last minute vote changes really helping your case, guys