Zell Wolf GWF Zell Wolf Version VII-2: REBIRTH Night 1 / Day 1

[finlandguy]

I'm getting weird vibes from Benzine right now, and this whole thread took a weird turn that feels kind of intentional to derail us (those two things might not be related, it's gotten hard to follow this thread.

If anyone else did it to anyone else, maybe. I think this whole thing between me and Benzine has come up at least a couple times when folks have taken it too seriously. It's just a thing.

 

[Zell 17]

Votes to lynch (8 required):

Local Hero - 8 (TD, Alu, shortkut, Tommy Boy, Smacktard, Raine, Tubby23, Dean)
TD - 3 (VashTheStampede, Local Hero, Jon)
Benzine - 1 (Jawneh)
Jawneh - 1 (Kat)
Tubby23 - 1 (Raposuh)

No vote - 2 (Benzine, Cole)

Votes to skip (15 required):

Skip - 1 (Benzine)

No vote - 15 (Alu, Cole, Dean, Jawneh, Jon, Kat, Local Hero, Raine, Raposuh, shortkut, Smacktard, TD, Tommy Boy, Tubby23, VashTheStampede)

 

[Dean]

As much as I enjoy the kitty pictures

My chonk

 

[finlandguy]

Oh, better yet. Can we make a tie? What happened in the case of a tie @Zell 17 ?

 

[Jon]

My chonk

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He looks exactly like my chonk. I just don't think I have a pic of him on my PC and getting on my phone is a pain

 

[Benzine]

Because I am not a wolf I find it weird that the number of people voting for Local is so high. Like... it really probably is the plan for the wolves to just strong arm the win in with sheer numbers and have a few people none the wiser accidentally join the lynch.

But, and I haven't really read the thread, didn't Kat say TD must be lying cause she's the one to have blah blah blah? But I hear TD has lead the way on Local? Just doesn't really work for me... But maybe I'm missing the important details lel.

 

[Raposuh]

So is there anyone we do actually like as a wolf?!
I'm getting weird vibes from Benzine right now, and this whole thread took a weird turn that feels kind of intentional to derail us (those two things might not be related, it's gotten hard to follow this thread).

Honestly the reminder from Vash that Smacktard could still be fan or sorceror, along with his gambit this morning has me leaning towards him (sorry bby don't drop me in the hotness rankings graph.) But honestly Tommy has the same issue with TD, if he's to be believed as another seer.

I don't think I have time to read the whole thread at this point quite honestly, so did anything crazy go down since the tenth page, around 2pm eastern time? I think the wolves probably guard the lynch even if it's not a wolf at this point.

 

[Zell 17]

Oh, better yet. Can we make a tie? What happened in the case of a tie @Zell 17 ?

No lynch

 

[Cole]

why are we still about to day 1 lynch someone based on literal zero?

TD all but acknowledged that this "play" is not uncommon, which means he knows he has absolutely nothing. and we're still going to lynch someone we have ZERO clue on?

what happened in the games I missed. did the wolves suddenly start winning every game? are we so afraid that were willing to completely randomly kill?

 

[finlandguy]

But, and I haven't really read the thread, didn't Kat say TD must be lying cause she's the one to have blah blah blah? But I hear TD has lead the way on Local? Just doesn't really work for me... But maybe I'm missing the important details lel.

TD originally said Local was 100% a wolf. Later when he came back he said it was a cold read. Many people jumped on it. And now, we're close to the territory of rather lynch someone rather than no one.

Kat said her protection had worked, thus invalidating the idea that TD was a tough guy about to die and that's why he knew Local was a wolf. But from TD himself, he never claimed to be TG.

 

[finlandguy]

No lynch

I'll toast to that.

Voting TD.

 

[Kat]

But, and I haven't really read the thread, didn't Kat say TD must be lying cause she's the one to have blah blah blah? But I hear TD has lead the way on Local? Just doesn't really work for me... But maybe I'm missing the important details lel.

I didn't say he was lying. TD said Local was 100% a wolf, people speculated that he was tough guy and got a baddie name that way. I said that couldn't be true because I was attacked and protected myself. However TD never actually claimed tough guy and I'm not sure why that was ever the assumption (he hinted he wasn't at one point IMO). Now TD says he never claimed that (which is true, though he didn't deny it most of the day either) and said he suspected Local as a cold read.

It's not a convincing reason to lynch at all, and if we didn't know his aura I'd suspect Wolf, but I think he was just trying to stir the pot with his best guess at the time.

It's not great for us if we're stuck between two townies.

 

[Zell 17]

Votes to lynch (8 required):

Local Hero - 8 (TD, Alu, shortkut, Tommy Boy, Smacktard, Raine, Tubby23, Dean)
TD - 4 (VashTheStampede, Local Hero, Jon, Jawneh)
Jawneh - 1 (Kat)
Tubby23 - 1 (Raposuh)

No vote - 2 (Benzine, Cole)

Votes to skip (15 required):

Skip - 1 (Benzine)

No vote - 15 (Alu, Cole, Dean, Jawneh, Jon, Kat, Local Hero, Raine, Raposuh, shortkut, Smacktard, TD, Tommy Boy, Tubby23, VashTheStampede)

 

[Kat]

what happened in the games I missed. did the wolves suddenly start winning every game? are we so afraid that were willing to completely randomly kill?

I haven't followed every wolf game either, but I don't think they've ever won one of Zell's games.

 

[VashTheStampede]

I know TD has had some killer reads the last few games but for 8 of y'all to go along with it just screams a couple of wolves are in that pack.

 

[Tubby23]

Abstain

 

[Raposuh]

I'll stick a vote in for TD I guess?

Based purely on, like Vash, I'm assuming that there are wolves attempting to dog pile the Local vote.

 

[Zell 17]

Votes to lynch (8 required):

Local Hero - 7 (TD, Alu, shortkut, Tommy Boy, Smacktard, Raine, Dean)
TD - 5 (VashTheStampede, Local Hero, Jon, Jawneh, Raposuh)
Jawneh - 1 (Kat)

No vote - 3 (Benzine, Cole, Tubby23)

Votes to skip (15 required):

Skip - 1 (Benzine)

No vote - 15 (Alu, Cole, Dean, Jawneh, Jon, Kat, Local Hero, Raine, Raposuh, shortkut, Smacktard, TD, Tommy Boy, Tubby23, VashTheStampede)

 

[Kat]

I vote TD mostly because Zell still has me down for Jawneh despite his adorable kitty cat.

 

[Dean]

He looks exactly like my chonk. I just don't think I have a pic of him on my PC and getting on my phone is a pain

I should've said, Grace is a female cat, but yeah... I love Russian Blues/British Blues/whatever. Fun cats, really lovey, and not mean toward anyone in my experience. But they can definitely "acquire mass".

 

[Dean]

Switching back to TD because once again I don't know what I am doing sorry everybody

 

[Tubby23]

This makes me miss our kitty

 

[Zell 17]

See below

 

[Jon]

 

[Kat]

I should've said, Grace is a female cat, but yeah... I love Russian Blues/British Blues/whatever. Fun cats, really lovey, and not mean toward anyone in my experience. But they can definitely "acquire mass".

So can tabbies.

 

[Zell 17]

Votes to lynch (8 required):

TD - 7 (VashTheStampede, Local Hero, Jon, Jawneh, Raposuh, Kat, Dean)
Local Hero - 6 (TD, Alu, shortkut, Tommy Boy, Smacktard, Raine)

No vote - 3 (Benzine, Cole, Tubby23)

Votes to skip (15 required):

Skip - 1 (Benzine)

No vote - 15 (Alu, Cole, Dean, Jawneh, Jon, Kat, Local Hero, Raine, Raposuh, shortkut, Smacktard, TD, Tommy Boy, Tubby23, VashTheStampede)

 

[Jon]

I should've said, Grace is a female cat, but yeah... I love Russian Blues/British Blues/whatever. Fun cats, really lovey, and not mean toward anyone in my experience. But they can definitely "acquire mass".

My chonkers. Coal.


My girl, Lily.

 

[Zell 17]

We’re back to the origins of the internet: cat pics

 

[Cole]

I haven't followed every wolf game either, but I don't think they've ever won one of Zell's games.

so then why are we so afraid all of a sudden and demanding we lynch?

I know TD has had some killer reads the last few games but for 8 of y'all to go along with it just screams a couple of wolves are in that pack.

agreed. there is a bandwagon effect happening here and it's not the benign kind.

 

[Dean]

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My chonkers. Coal.

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My girl, Lily.

Beautiful. Coal looks darker than Grace, but definitely the same otherwise. Those eyes.

But yeah, I'm fine with whatever at this point. Just want to see some information, whether that means we lynch, or if we just wait to see what night brings.

 

[VashTheStampede]

so then why are we so afraid all of a sudden and demanding we lynch?

The numbers are different for

 

[Tubby23]

This is Gizmo <3, we miss her every day

 

[VashTheStampede]

The numbers are different for

Lol I accidentally hit reply because I dropped my phone

 

[VashTheStampede]

so then why are we so afraid all of a sudden and demanding we lynch?

The numbers are different this game with more wolves and no solo killer to do all the hard work for us so I don't think using past games for logic is the best move?

 

[VashTheStampede]

Ugh this is way more lame without having Christina to bounce thoughts off of

 

[Tubby23]

Every game is separate from other games. Roles are different, players are different, balance is different etc. Past logic only gets us so far.

 

[Dean]

The fact nobody died the first night, until Kat came forward, people thought the wolves might have been up to 6 members.

 

[Kat]

Every time I get in my hammock, Jello (not the same chonky boy as pictured earlier) meows at me relentlessly. This was taken five seconds ago:

 

[Tubby23]

The fact nobody died the first night, until Kat came forward, people thought the wolves might have been up to 6 members.

There is 6 though

 

[Tubby23]

Every time I get in my hammock, Jello (not the same chonky boy as pictured earlier) meows at me relentlessly. This was taken five seconds ago:

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Pictures you can hear.

 

[Kat]

There is 6 though

Fan counts for the town until they get attacked.

 

[shortkut]

Vote Jawneh

@shortkut

I almost feel sorry for him

Because he's the mad bomber.

No, I’m the mad bomber

 

[Tubby23]

I almost feel sorry for him

No, I’m the mad bomber

And I'm the bailiff

 

[VashTheStampede]

 

[Raposuh]

@Tommy Boy I'm working under the assumption you're a legit seer as well, I am going to pick someone from the top 8. So you seer someone from 9-16. Aaaaaand break!

 

[Dean]

Who do we have that can protect people? Which roles?

 

[Cole]

The numbers are different this game with more wolves and no solo killer to do all the hard work for us so I don't think using past games for logic is the best move?

nah, not really.

as I've said countless times before, and one of the reasons I stopped playing, this game has a significant town advantage, and removing the fool makes it an uphill for the wolves REGARDLESS of how many wolves there are.

the numbers should give us MORE pause to delay, not less.

a mislynch here has us hurting more than usual.

 

[Tubby23]

Who do we have that can protect people? Which roles?

Random ones

 

[Cole]

@Tommy Boy I'm working under the assumption you're a legit seer as well, I am going to pick someone from the top 8. So you seer someone from 9-16. Aaaaaand break!

hey I suggested this!

but for protectors.

 

[Tubby23]

hey I suggested this!

but for protectors.

I'll cover 1-8