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Zell 17 said:
Votes to lynch (3 required):

Alu - 3 (shortkut, Dean, VashTheStampede)
TD - 1 (Alu)

No Vote - 3 (Benzine, Raine, TD)

Votes to skip (6 required):

Skip - 2 (shortkut, VashTheStampede)

No Vote - 5 (Alu, Benzine, Dean, Raine, TD)
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Do we read anything into Raine and TD holding out?

@Raine you've got Vash as 10/10 shaman wolf or whatever.

I dunno. I'm gonna quit paying attention for a while or I'll drive myself crazy/crazier.
 
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Dean said:
Do we read anything into Raine and TD holding out?

@Raine you've got Vash as 10/10 shaman wolf or whatever.

I dunno. I'm gonna quit paying attention for a while or I'll drive myself crazy/crazier.
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Just skip and let the day be over. It’s not worth going crazy over. Either we’re on the right track or we’re not. That’s all there is
 
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VashTheStampede said:
Typical Raine move holding out, she's not as impulsive as others of us.

TD is just trying to figure his path at this point I think.
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TD better hope the wolves don’t target me because there’s a chance @TD dies that way and it doesn’t matter who he helps. His best shot is to take out the wolves and leave me for the end
 
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Okay. Here's the deal. Cards on the table.

I'm getting serious PTSD from that FQ game right now and honestly not the good kind.

That game was fucked. Other people got fucked (Vash, canadaguy, Benzine), looking at you.

For the uninitiated. I was on the lynch table day 2. I should have died. Period. I lived because of some decisions at a game level that were made that to this day I don't agree with.

In that game I was perfectly content handing the control over to the rest of the town. I was at peace with my death. Then when Jawneh got himself killed, I felt a literal obligation to go hard to help the town win, which they did. I felt dirty about it because honestly I shouldn't have been alive, but the town made a choice with an assist from the GM so I helped.

I will never get myself out of a lynch situation without someone taking a leap of faith like Jawneh did.

In that game, I hinted my role on Day 2 and it literally took until Day 5 for the town to fully trust me and I was the seer.

This game - similar situation. As many have pointed out, I am in a permanent state of sus, always, and in every single game. This is likely due to my playstyle, I get it, I don't like it, but I get it. When I saw my role and saw it was in the random pool, I had to figure out something. Yesterday I was perfectly content with my death, much like the FQ game. I genuinely thought Raine was bluffing when she said she was bringing me back.

So now? I'm here to help. But I don't have facts. Just speculation. I thought I knew what was what yesterday, but when I found out the Shaman Wolf was still alive yesterday and it threw everything into a state of flux.

Of all the random claims - the only one who can prove it is Alu by taking the shot tonight. Which he has to do if he lives.

Alu has been helpful this game. Smart wolf play or genuine townie?

I don't know.

Dean on the other hand has been all over the place and focused solely on self preservation.

If Alu is the Alpha - he doesn't come back Evil Night 3. Granted, he could be the Shaman.
 
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Raine said:
You were wrong-ish. I fixed your error. Warned y'all up front about it, even.

Even if you believe he's the Illusionist - he's not - the town needs the Illusionist to have any chance of winning.
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One of my biggest problems right now is that I do not see why you're sure that he's not the illusionist. I'm sure I'm just missing something so I was hoping you could elucidate the situation for me.

Is there an actual reason or is it just your  belief? Because the fact that you apparently think I'm a wolf gives me little hope for the endgame if it's just based on belief.
 
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TD said:
Okay. Here's the deal. Cards on the table.

I'm getting serious PTSD from that FQ game right now and honestly not the good kind.

That game was fucked. Other people got fucked (Vash, canadaguy, Benzine), looking at you.

For the uninitiated. I was on the lynch table day 2. I should have died. Period. I lived because of some decisions at a game level that were made that to this day I don't agree with.

In that game I was perfectly content handing the control over to the rest of the town. I was at peace with my death. Then when Jawneh got himself killed, I felt a literal obligation to go hard to help the town win, which they did. I felt dirty about it because honestly I shouldn't have been alive, but the town made a choice with an assist from the GM so I helped.

I will never get myself out of a lynch situation without someone taking a leap of faith like Jawneh did.

In that game, I hinted my role on Day 2 and it literally took until Day 5 for the town to fully trust me and I was the seer.

This game - similar situation. As many have pointed out, I am in a permanent state of sus, always, and in every single game. This is likely due to my playstyle, I get it, I don't like it, but I get it. When I saw my role and saw it was in the random pool, I had to figure out something. Yesterday I was perfectly content with my death, much like the FQ game. I genuinely thought Raine was bluffing when she said she was bringing me back.

So now? I'm here to help. But I don't have facts. Just speculation. I thought I knew what was what yesterday, but when I found out the Shaman Wolf was still alive yesterday and it threw everything into a state of flux.

Of all the random claims - the only one who can prove it is Alu by taking the shot tonight. Which he has to do if he lives.

Alu has been helpful this game. Smart wolf play or genuine townie?

I don't know.

Dean on the other hand has been all over the place and focused solely on self preservation.

If Alu is the Alpha - he doesn't come back Evil Night 3. Granted, he could be the Shaman.
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So the issue here is that you're saying to let Alu AND Benzine live when they're the only ones I feel safe about killing other than you.
 
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VashTheStampede said:
One of my biggest problems right now is that I do not see why you're sure that he's not the illusionist. I'm sure I'm just missing something so I was hoping you could elucidate the situation for me.

Is there an actual reason or is it just your  belief? Because the fact that you apparently think I'm a wolf gives me little hope for the endgame if it's just based on belief.
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This. I’m pretty sure from the timeline of actions, TD would not be disguised at the time of his death unless we are down to only the alpha wolf remaining
 
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