Zell Wolf GWF Wolf Version VII Night 3 / Day 3

[shortkut]

If you were disguised by the illusionist, but the illusionist died prior to benzine learning your identity, you wouldn’t be disguised anymore so that limits our options. @Zell 17 confirmation on this paragraph please. I remember someone mentioning it earlier, but I didn’t catch if you confirmed it or not. With the order of events, hypothetically, if TD was disguised and Benzine was in fact the bellfucker, would the disguise on TD be gone if Local was the actual illusionist?

I’ve taken the liberty of crossing out all the options where the illusionist could have disguised you

It should be noted, that this is the most effort I’ve put into a post this game

 

[TD]

With the order of events, hypothetically, if TD was disguised and Benzine was in fact the bellfucker, would the disguise on TD be gone if Local was the actual illusionist?

Disguise is one of the first things that happened.

...interestingly enough, bell ringer isn't even on the action list.

 

[shortkut]

Disguise is one of the first things that happened.

...interestingly enough, bell ringer isn't even on the action list.

Yes but once the illusionist is dead, all disguises are gone

 

[TD]

Yes but once the illusionist is dead, all disguises are gone

Oh okay then you'll learn my actual role and I'll be vindicated. Cool.

 

[shortkut]

Oh okay then you'll learn my actual role and I'll be vindicated. Cool.

 

[TD]

I'll also put forward that if Local Hero actually was not the Illusionist, there should be two people appearing as the Illusionist right now.

 

[shortkut]

I'll also put forward that if Local Hero actually was not the Illusionist, there should be two people appearing as the Illusionist right now.

You say that like we can see everyone’s role at the same time

 

[TD]

So I may not be vindicated.

 

[TD]

You say that like we can see everyone’s role at the same time

My point being - if I end up appearing as the Illusionist, it's not a guarantee that I am.

 

[shortkut]

Let’s kill TD, then when he is revealed as illusionist, we go about our merry way thinking we only have to worry about wolves until vash comes along and kills everyone he disguised in one fell swoop like the varshonist did

 

[TD]

lol Your merry way.

Good luck with that.

 

[shortkut]

 

[shortkut]

Maybe it will be a costume party, maybe it will be a barbecue. Whatever @VashTheStampede is hosting, I’m there for

 

[TD]

we only have to worry about wolves until vash comes along and kills everyone he disguised in one fell swoop like the varshonist did

Wait wait wait wait wait.

...didn't canadaguy see Vash and Ants as being on different teams?

Omg is he doing it again?

 

[TD]

Vash if you did it to me again I may never forgive you.

 

[shortkut]

Wait wait wait wait wait.

...didn't canadaguy see Vash and Ants as being on different teams?

Omg is he doing it again?

I don’t know what the fuck canadaguy saw. @Raine - what do you want to pretend @canadaguy saw?

 

[Smacktard]

I had prepared a long multi-quote post but saw you all were making the right decision. Good.

Vote TD.

I've been telling you all since yesterday he's the real Illusionist. No one was listening. TD has been going after me because he knows my reads are good and getting another townie lynched is to his benefit. I know I've been wishy-washy with committing to kills, but I think Local was the Fool and TD was the Illusionist. It sounds like he's going to kill one of us as soon as Zell wakes up (maybe me, like I've been saying since yesterday?).

I haven't committed to killing any townies, haven't started any bandwagoned, but by virtue of me being evil and not afraid of lying in two or three games, I've kind of cemented myself in the "bad guy" role in people's minds. Whatever. I played with the town the whole game, and...

I literally swore on my daughter's life that I'm the Beast Hunter, so if you don't believe me after that, nothing else I say is going to matter.

I literally swear on my wife's life that I'm the sheriff. I'm glad *one* of us thought to watch Tubby last night, because I have two suspects: Vash and Dean.

Make of this what you will, but TD is the right vote today. He's arriving at false conclusions about the Illusionist.

I've said it since day one: Local is the fool.
And since yesterday: TD is the Illusionist.

I even offered the town to take me out after TD because I'm so sure he's the Illusionist. So go ahead @Jawneh pull your drawstring back, I'll sacrifice myself for the town as long as we get rid of the real Illusionist.

TD has me and Local disguised, thinking he could either lynch me or get a wolf/town kill for Local, and disappear to stop making kills until he could take out the whole town. I made the claim yesterday but of course no one listened to me. Instead, they all bandwagon on to him today and then say I look sus for actively helping the town in the only way I can. Well, it's annoying. Whatever.

 

[TD]

You do know your blind wolf gets fooled by Illusionist reads too, right?

There's been no kill since Day 1, so unless that blind wolf checked me night 0, you're full of shit.

Or you're the Illusionist yourself and masked me and Local.

Go town!

 

[TD]

Here's a red flag for you if I've ever seen one: there are 9 people.

2 of them are wolves. 1 is the illusionist.

At this stage - the only chance the wolves have is to leave the Illusionist alive because they need to bring it down to 4.

...isn't it a little weird that the wolves are jumping on me too?

 

[Smacktard]

And from what I understand, there's five shaky role claims left:
Vash as Loudmouth
Benzine as bell ringer
Alu as marksman
Dean as beast hunter
TD as tough guy

Jawneh and Raine are confirmed townies

Shortkut is PROBABLY townie unless I'm wildly wrong and he's actually RK or RV (in which case: kudos, extremely well played, or sorry for your loss)

 

[Smacktard]

You do know your blind wolf gets fooled by Illusionist reads too, right?

There's been no kill since Day 1, so unless that blind wolf checked me night 0, you're full of shit.

You sound more familiar with the blind wolf role than me. Would make sense if you're working together with the baddies.

Or you're the Illusionist yourself and masked me and Local.

Something something accused accuses acusser guilty something something

Bonus of you doing the same thing you always earn others about to Alu after he accuses and votes for you:

As you should wolf.

 

[TD]

You sound more familiar with the blind wolf role than me. Would make sense if you're working together with the baddies.

The only way to know for sure who appears as an Illusionist and Fool is with something like the Blind Wolf.

Or yeah - your reads are that good that you just happen to be able to explicitly narrow down the only two roles that the blind wolf can 100% identify.

 

[TD]

Funny how you haven't bothered with your great reading ability on any other role, huh?

 

[TD]

Benzine and Kelly are your wolves ladies and gents.

 

[TD]

(slight chance Alu instead of Benzine but if this man drew wolf again? Fuuuuuck)

 

[Smacktard]

The only way to know for sure who appears as an Illusionist and Fool is with something like the Blind Wolf.

You're too proud to admit that you have been slipping up so muchm

Or yeah - your reads are that good that you just happen to be able to explicitly narrow down the only two roles that the blind wolf can 100% identify.

As RK last game I was the only one to figure out the Vash+Christina connection a day ahead of everyone else and I knew 3/4 wolves while the town was still struggling to find a single one. Zell and others in the dead thread can confirm.

Local's claim was obvious. Illusionist at least thought so too. You trying to control the narrative and accuse everyone did you no favors either. You're trying to whip up disagreement and controversy between all thread members:
You accused shortkut after he was confirmed non-wolf
You accused Dean for NOT jumping on a bandwagon
You accused Raine before she proved her role
I could keep going. Is there anyone you HAVEN'T accused?

Like you said:

2 of them are wolves. 1 is the illusionist.

At this stage - the only chance the wolves have is to leave the Illusionist alive because they need to bring it down to 4.

There's only two wolves. It wouldn't make sense as a wolf to kill you and then offer myself up to Jawneh as a sacrifice.

 

[TD]

Okay wolf, you'll die tonight anyhow. Unless you're the Alpha.

 

[Smacktard]

Okay wolf, you'll die tonight anyhow. Unless you're the Alpha.

If I die, I shall die a martyr.

 

[TD]

A martyr for what?
Wolves helping the town win again?

 

[TD]

If I die, I shall die a martyr.

For the record - your biggest assumption about what I've been doing when it comes to you?

You're wrong.

 

[TD]

vote skip

 

[Smacktard]

Vote skip.

 

[finlandguy]

Well, the wolves need the illusionist dead and today might be the only day for them to have a sliver of hope to win? I'm too tired to consider if tomorrow would still work for wolves if illusionist is also alive. Probably not. Not sure.

Anyhow, voting TD. Finally breaking your streak and getting lynched. Good job. There's enough folks from different sides pointing at you being a magician man, so it kind of has to be true or the game won't end well for the town or wolves. Or we're all wrong and the real illusionist will probably win the game at this point! Wow!

Barring awful day time killings ruining things, this is how it goes:
Illusionist kills 9 -> 7
Lynch TD 7 -> 6
Shoot Kelly 6 -> 5
Wolf 5 -> 4

There would be one more lynch tomorrow. If we hit the alpha, score, winners. If not, we lose. Assuming Kelly isn't it.

If someone can brainstorm something from this that can make us win, go for it. I might do something tomorrow before work since atm I'm spent after the day.

Also I might want to add, if TD isn't the real illusionist, the wolves might want to hold their night kill since they also need bodies to vote lynch whoever actually would be it.

Bed now. Need snooze.

 

[TD]

@Jawneh
Skip?

 

[finlandguy]

I guess. Skip.

 

[Smacktard]

Illusionist kills 9 -> 7

How? If it's TD, he killed FR night 0 (dead), disguised Local night 1 (dead), disguised someone else night 2. There's only a single kill/disguise unaccounted for.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Well I am incredibly sleepy and I see all this Thanos shit where TD looks like he's claiming Illusionist or something? Like he's trying to get lynched? Did I dream that? Am I awake? Is he the Fool?

I'm voting  Smacktard cause I don't think there's two sheriffs.

I'm also very suspect of Alu and TD because at this point people who haven't done shit ability-wise always feel super sus.

I'd add Dean to the list except for the daughter thing.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Also I got a haircut yesterday and forgot about it and my reflection this morning scared the shit out of me.

I'm PRETTY sure I'm awake and this isn't a dream.

 

[Dean]

I was expecting something big from TD snapping his fingers

 

[Dean]

Abstaining for now till I can decide if I think TD is the Fool

 

[VashTheStampede]

GWF wouldn't load for a bit for me and I really started wondering if I was still asleep.

You ever have those dreams where you have to run away but you. can't. move. fast. at. all?

That's what watching it try to load felt like.

If you haven't had a dream like that please don't psychoanalyze me kthnx.

 

[Dean]

GWF wouldn't load for a bit for me and I really started wondering if I was still asleep.

You ever have those dreams where you have to run away but you. can't. move. fast. at. all?

That's what watching it try to load felt like.

If you haven't had a dream like that please don't psychoanalyze me kthnx.

It was slow for me too and wouldn't load. I gave up on the app and loaded it in a browser tab.

Judging by the lack of activity so far, I don't think it's just us having that issue.

Maybe TD really did fuck something up.

 

[Zell 17]

Votes to lynch (4 required):

TD - 5 (Benzine, Alu, shortkut, Smacktard, Jawneh)
Benzine - 1 (TD)
Smacktard - 1 (VashTheStampede)

No vote - 2 (Raine, Dean)

Votes to skip (8 required):

Skip - 3 (TD, Smacktard, Jawneh)
No vote - 6 (Alu, Benzine, Dean, Raine, shortkut, VashTheStampede)

 

[Zell 17]

The Bell Ringer is not on the list of night actions intentionally. They get their info whenever their target dies, whether it's at night or during the day.

 

[Smacktard]

I'd add Dean to the list except for the daughter thing

But you vote for me even though I said the same thing about my wife? Damn bro that's cold. You know I love her too, right?

 

[VashTheStampede]

But you vote for me even though I said the same thing about my wife? Damn bro that's cold. You know I love her too, right?

Honestly I must have missed that. Was it when you and TD were going back and forth? Cause I skipped a lot of that this morning and haven't gone back yet.

 

[Raine]

Forum outage killed my morning. At work, can’t really read/write anything.

Voting for Alu

 

[VashTheStampede]

Hey @TD you want in on this new meta of swearing on something beloved about your role so everyone thinks you're a massive jerkwad if you're lying?

Voting TD

(i dont like where this game is going meta-wise. Might be time to pre-emptively get the Aftercare Thread started)

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Forum outage killed my morning. At work, can’t really read/write anything.

Voting for Alu

Oh good. I was just about to @ you for yesterday.

I think I made a mistake on my target from how confident you were yesterday. Dean's post about his daughter's life has really stuck with me as something he legitimately wouldn't do it he were lying (please don't do this again in the future, it's only a game!).

I don't want to take the shot and put us down an extra townie when we don't have to. Jawneh is way better with his targets than I am.

I think after we kill the illusionist and with Jawneh taking his shot we'll have a big numbers advantage with only 2 more wolves to go (max) and only one night kill from them, even with the alpha included in there. I don't know if the risk is worth it, and we can wait for more information from you (Raine) even you get back.


Long story short I think Dean is a good boy now. I also do question Kelly putting both him and vash on his "sheriff list" though.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Skip

I am super happy with my vote on TD though.