Zell Wolf GWF Wolf Version VII Night 1 / Day 1

[TD]

I went back and looked - FR never posted in here but posted in other spots. So no role hint. Seems unlike him.

Perhaps the Ritualist can tell us what FR was after tonight?

Unless he lies...

 

[Tubby23]

Now I have to read what the illusionist does. Thanks a lot

Wolf trickster on steroids (and coke)

 

[Local Hero]

QUESTION:
Do we have single good way of knowing wolf?
Or do town just go "idk lol Vash have wolf breath, vote Vash"?

Sheriff power weak.
Disclaim: am not say Vash = wolf

As far as I can tell, we have two options. Start lynching, or wait for the wolves to start killing.

Either way, we'll get info. The question is, which one is more/less risky

 

[Smacktard]

I went back and looked - FR never posted in here but posted in other spots. So no role hint. Seems unlike him.

Perhaps the Ritualist can tell us what FR was after tonight?

Unless he lies...

Me wolf with FR before.
When wolf, FR quiet.
Maybe lucky and FRwolf dead?

 

[TD]

QUESTION:
Do we have single good way of knowing wolf?
Or do town just go "idk lol Vash have wolf breath, vote Vash"?

Sheriff power weak.
Disclaim: am not say Vash = wolf

Priest was a great way and we know shortkut is not a wolf.

Sheriff gives a 50% chance if they watch the right person.

Random roles: Spirit Seer, Red Lady, Beast Hunter, Tough Guy, Aura Seer (but Shaman/Alpha)

 

[A Maybe Baker]

As far as I can tell, we have two options. Start lynching, or wait for the wolves to start killing.

Either way, we'll get info. The question is, which one is more/less risky

Well random lynching can also literally end the game since there's a fool around. If fool was the fool then we're good. Otherwise welp.

 

[TD]

As far as I can tell, we have two options. Start lynching, or wait for the wolves to start killing.

Except we might have a Fool, unless it was FR.

Me wolf with FR before.
When wolf, FR quiet.
Maybe lucky and FRwolf dead?

It's possible - but then whatever he tells the Ritualist could be a lie.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Nope. That's why dropping Holy water on day 1 in a game where we were already being set up to have a disadvantage was, to speak kindly, misguided.

 

[shortkut]

Nope. That's why dropping Holy water on day 1 in a game where we were already being set up to have a disadvantage was, to speak kindly, misguided.

It seemed par for the course

 

[VashTheStampede]

Nope. That's why dropping Holy water on day 1 in a game where we were already being set up to have a disadvantage was, to speak kindly, misguided.

this was a response to Kelly but I forgot to refresh the page to check for new responses because I am, to speak kindly, a fucking moron

 

[shortkut]

this was a response to Kelly but I forgot to refresh the page to check for new responses because I am, to speak kindly, a fucking moron

Are you perhaps, a fool?

 

[VashTheStampede]

Are you perhaps, a fool?

I wish

 

[Tubby23]

Priest was a great way and we know shortkut is not a wolf.

Sheriff gives a 50% chance if they watch the right person.

Random roles: Spirit Seer, Red Lady, Beast Hunter, Tough Guy, Aura Seer (but Shaman/Alpha)

I can help 50/50

 

[A Maybe Baker]

I mean we are currently in the best suites game for a fool so win so far so that's a reasonable wish

 

[TD]

I feel like if Vash or shortkut were the fool they couldn't resist the temptation of trying to get themselves killed day 1.

 

[Smacktard]

Priest was a great way and we know shortkut is not a wolf.

Good baseline for spirit seer if any.

Sheriff gives a 50% chance if they watch the right person

Yes but hard choose. Need Ants' preacher luck.

 

[Smacktard]

Nope. That's why dropping Holy water on day 1 in a game where we were already being set up to have a disadvantage was, to speak kindly, misguided.

True but funny.

 

[TD]

My current leading suspect for Fool is LH, it's not based on much though.

 

[Tubby23]

Good baseline for spirit seer if any.

Yes but hard choose. Need Ants' preacher luck.

As long as we don't cross swords it's easier

 

[VashTheStampede]

True but funny.

 

[Smacktard]

My current leading suspect for Fool is LH, it's not based on much though.

True... Or wolf?... Or RK? Tough call.

 

[TD]

True... Or wolf?... Or RK? Tough call.

 

[VashTheStampede]

I feel like if Vash or shortkut were the fool they couldn't resist the temptation of trying to get themselves killed day 1.

Too obvious

 

[Tubby23]

We didn't need CG alive for the killing to start at least, feels safe and warm

 

[TD]

Current case for LH being Fool:
- Fool is Unknown aura
- LH claimed Witch, Unknown aura and random
- LH claimed would be protecting self (witch can't)
- Hinting you'll be protected at night suggest dying by lynch, which Fool wants

Like I said, it's not much but today is filled with not much.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Current case for LH being Fool:
- Fool is Unknown aura
- LH claimed Witch, Unknown aura and random
- LH claimed would be protecting self (witch can't)
- Hinting you'll be protected at night suggest dying by lynch, which Fool wants

Like I said, it's not much but today is filled with not much.

Is TD short for "ta da!"

 

[shortkut]

It would be funny if the headhunter was assigned the fool

 

[TD]

Is TD short for "ta da!"

It's pronounced tiddy thank you very much.

I appreciate the nod on my deductive reasoning but what do you think?

It would be funny if the headhunter was assigned the fool

I don't think they can co-exist (like literally within game structure).

 

[shortkut]

I don't think they can co-exist (like literally within game structure).

 

[TD]

I can help 50/50

 

[A Maybe Baker]

I appreciate the nod on my deductive reasoning but what do you think?

It's obviously not a guarantee, but it is a reasonable leap to make. I mean either way the idea would be to not lynch him (witch or fool).

 

[Zell 17]

Votes to lynch (6 required):

Benzine - 1 (shortkut)
Dean - 1 (Local Hero)
No vote - 11 (Altoona Pizza, Ben, Benzine ,Dean, Jawneh, Raine, Smacktard, TD, Tommy Boy, Tubby23, VashTheStampede)

Votes to skip (12 required):

No vote - 13 (Altoona Pizza, Ben, Benzine , Dean, Jawneh, Local Hero, Raine, shortkut, Smacktard, TD, Tommy Boy, Tubby23, VashTheStampede

 

[TD]

So it looks like everyone has posted - so I don't know if we'll be getting any groundbreaking seer reads like last time and with a potential Fool out there, speculating is dangerous.

 

[TD]

Anyone have anything to help us narrow down the baddies and fool?

 

[Local Hero]

Illusionist
Aura: Unknown
Cannot be killed by the wolves at night. At night, can choose to disguise a player. Any disguised player will appear to be the Illusionist to all seers and will be reported as the Illusionist if they are killed. During the day, at any time, the Illusionist can decide to kill all disguised players. If the Illusionist is killed, all players will no longer be disguised. Players killed by the Illusionist still will not have their roles revealed. Aura: Unknown

I just got around to reading this role more carefully.

So basically, just so I'm understanding, the illusionist targeted Fool randomly and, during this day phase, decided to kill him.

I wonder if instantly killing is a smarter way to play that going for a day or two and killing everyone at once

 

[Local Hero]

Anyone have anything to help us narrow down the baddies and fool?

Shortkut is 100% not a wolf, but could be solo role

 

[Tubby23]

I'm

Anyone have anything to help us narrow down the baddies and fool?

I'm reading through again to check for story inconsistencies.

So far:
- LH's witch thing was interesting but not a nail in the coffin
- Dean said he didn't like role claiming but then did, I feel that's more because that's what we all do now

More work to do

 

[TD]

I'm reading through again to check for story inconsistencies.

Speaking of inconsistencies, is your claim of the guaranteed nature or random nature?

 

[Tubby23]

Speaking of inconsistencies, is your claim of the guaranteed nature or random nature?

Lock it in, Boss Hog

 

[TD]

So I spent some time in the dictionary. There's a lot of pressure on the Ritualist. Apparently they can revive a WOLF?

Ritualist
Aura: Unknown
Can speak with the dead at night. At anytime, including the first night, can cast a spell on any player who is alive. The Ritualist at any time can change who is spelled. If the spelled player dies, the spelled player will be resurrected at the end of the next phase. If they were a werewolf, they will be revived as a regular werewolf with no powers. The spell will remain after the Ritualist is killed. Only one player may be revived per game.

 

[TD]

Lock it in, Boss Hog

Iiiiiiinteresting...

 

[A Maybe Baker]

So I spent some time in the dictionary. There's a lot of pressure on the Ritualist. Apparently they can revive a WOLF?

Ritualist
Aura: Unknown
Can speak with the dead at night. At anytime, including the first night, can cast a spell on any player who is alive. The Ritualist at any time can change who is spelled. If the spelled player dies, the spelled player will be resurrected at the end of the next phase. If they were a werewolf, they will be revived as a regular werewolf with no powers. The spell will remain after the Ritualist is killed. Only one player may be revived per game.

And if they're killed early they won't be able to change who it is. So if they set it on a no-no baddie and then die, that person will be guaranteed to come back.

(@Zell 17 can the ritualist revive the fool or illusionist?)

 

[TD]

Are we sure that Zell didn't load up the chaos game?

 

[Tubby23]

And it would appear there is no way to stop the revival happening?

 

[TD]

I assume the Ritualist can opt to not spell anyone until they're sure?

That might be the best option with 6 anti-town options total.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

And it would appear there is no way to stop the revival happening?

I guess don't set a person to be revived until you're sure?

If you want to do that?

 

[TD]

 

[Tubby23]

It would seem that way, Zell can confirm. But a ritualist would currently be wise to hold fire on pulling that trigger until we have some info

 

[Zell 17]

And if they're killed early they won't be able to change who it is. So if they set it on a no-no baddie and then die, that person will be guaranteed to come back.

(@Zell 17 can the ritualist revive the fool or illusionist?)

Yeah they could revive anyone.

 

[Tubby23]

Raine's list of who she thought claimed things would be handy, as I'm sure there is things I haven't picked up on.