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Zell Wolf Wolf 21 - Day 5

Who should the villagers lynch? (3 votes required)

  • Kat

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Quagmire

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Tommy Boy

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • VashTheStampede

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    13
  • Poll closed .
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Dictionary: https://gwforums.com/threads/zell-wolf-role-dictionary-and-hall-of-fame.427/

Here's the list of players:

@A Slightly New Used Server
@Ben
@Benzine
@canadaguy
@Christina
@dimmerwit
@Fool's Requiem

@Jawneh
@Kat
@Local Hero
@Quagmire
@shortkut
@Tommy Boy
@VashTheStampede


And here are the roles:

Village team:
1x Aura Seer / Spirit Seer
3x Random Strong Villagers
5x Random Regular Villagers

Note: There will be NO MORE than one person who has a "speak with the dead" role. There will also be no more than one person with a "lock players up at night" role. There may be none of either, but there won't be multiple.

Wolf team:
1x Wolf Seer
3x Random Wolves

The werewolves can be any of the numbered wolves (except regular werewolf) listed in the dictionary.

Solo team:
1x Random Killer

Wildcard Role:
1x Random Fool/Headhunter/Werewolf Fan/Cupid

If the Werewolf Fan is selected, one wolf will become the Sorcerer.

Rules:
Nights will be 12 hours and days will be 24 hours. The end of the next period will be clearly posted.

You may edit your posts for clarity. If you edit out an action (like shooting someone) and you get caught I'm killing you.

Votes will be conducted via poll. The poll will close exactly at the deadline. You have unlimited changes until that point. If this sucks we'll go back, even if it's mid-game (not mid-day).

There will be a minimum number of votes required to lynch. Usually this number will be around the number of villagers / 2 - 1. In the event of a tie, nobody is lynched. In the event that the minimum number of votes is not reached, nobody is lynched.

Skips require a skip vote from every player. They'll be posted in the forum as usual. Once you vote to skip, you cannot unskip.

Night events will go in the following priority order regardless of when the PMs are sent to me:

Wolf Nightmare activates
Beast Hunter picks up trap (if moved)
Wolf Shaman/Confusion activates
Medium/Ritualist revive spell
Wolves break out of warden prison
Warden weapon used
Wolf seer/Sorcerer check
Wolf seer/Sorcerer choice to resign
Blind Wolf check
Illusionist disguise
Flagger redirect
Doctor protect
Jailer/Warden protect
Bodyguard protect
Witch protect
Tough Guy protect
Violinist check + gets results
Detective check + gets results
Aura Seer checks + gets results
Spirit Seer check
Sheriff check
Voodoo wolf / Librarian mute
Marksman shot
Witch kill (if not killed by marksman, otherwise potion unused)
Jailer kill (if not killed by marksman/witch)
Red Lady visit
Revived players return from the dead (cannot be targeted by wolves/solo in same night)
Solo killer attack
Wolf berserk mode activates
Wolves kill
Spirit Seer gets results
Sheriff gets results
Beast Hunter places trap
Cupid selection

In the event that two of the same role perform the exact same action, they will both be credited.

Please do not talk about the game outside of the designated threads. This is honor system. When you die, you will gain access to a special forum that is already set up. The player may have access to this forum at night. If you are revived, you will lose access. Please use this forum for all discussion by dead players about the game. Alive players can talk during the main thread during the day.

It is possible, if very unlikely, for the game to end in a tie if every single player is killed. The game also ends in a tie if there are no deaths for three straight days and nights.

Winning Conditions:

Village: Kill all wolves and the solo killer.

Wolves: Kill the solo killer. Once the wolves make up half the total players, the wolves win, regardless of the roles remaining.

Solo Killer: Kill all other players.

Wildcard Role: Satisfy your winning condition. Your winning condition trumps any other that may occur at the same time. (For example, if you lynch the fool and it creates a situation where there are 3 wolves left and 3 villagers, the Fool wins only).
 

finlandguy

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Hold on now before anyone is stoned. I got a good reason for it.

That is since the other night I only had 1 wolf doused. I dipped Local and Vash that night, so there would've been no change today even if I torched. Especially since the wolves didn't follow the ruse to use their guardian yesterday.
 

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Option 1: the town votes with me, the person who said this would happen, to kill Jawneh who didn’t honor his word

Option 2: Kat stones the other wolf and then Jawneh wins

Option 3: we no lynch again and Jawneh lights up the town and wins
Hold on now before anyone is stoned. I got a good reason for it.

That is since the other night I only had 1 wolf doused. I dipped Local and Vash that night, so there would've been no change today even if I torched. Especially since the wolves didn't follow the ruse to use their guardian yesterday.
I couldn’t use my power because it ended in a tie. You would have needed to vote with us to make that happen
 

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So if I had torched last night, it would've been 2-2-1 now, still the same as kut does guardian for the lynch, then Tommy dies at the end of the day, and Kat is killed tonight. I get then lynched and wolves win.
 

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To be fair, there was a chance of town winning if Local came back and depending on which wolf was stoned. If it went on kut and Local was here, they could've killed kut today, and voted off Quagmire with me torching Vash. Tomorrow it would've been Kat and Local against me.

Would she still let me win at that point? Even with her word? Maybe on a more personal level she'd be true to it, but this is a wolf game.
 

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.... now that I think about all of this, was the dead body the "guaranteed" seer for the town? None else was an aura or spirit seer?
Or maybe I'm the spirit seer like I said all along!

And Zell screwed up/helped the town by giving us one less wolf!

Okay townies, now is our chance to take advantage of Zell's magnanimity! That might be a word! Maybe!
 

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To be fair, there was a chance of town winning if Local came back and depending on which wolf was stoned. If it went on kut and Local was here, they could've killed kut today, and voted off Quagmire with me torching Vash. Tomorrow it would've been Kat and Local against me.

Would she still let me win at that point? Even with her word? Maybe on a more personal level she'd be true to it, but this is a wolf game.
I said I'd let you win if you burned and Local wasn't revived, so I'm not sure why I'd need to let you win if Local was revived and you didn't burn.

Voting Jawneh.
 

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I said I'd let you win if you burned and Local wasn't revived, so I'm not sure why I'd need to let you win if Local was revived and you didn't burn.

Voting Jawneh.
Because tomorrow it would've been you and Local against me.

Would you have really dropped a guaranteed win at that point?
 

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Anyway you messed up. I rocked Quagmire, so if you'd burned Vash last night, you'd be down to one wolf today. With Tommy and I on your side, you couldn't have lost. Should've done it.
You rolled 2 when I asked you to rock someone and 2 was for Vash. So you feigned that yourself which resulted in me ignoring that path.
 

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I never said I threw a rock at that person.
I was under the impression you did and thus chose the next best thing.

If I torched Vash, wolves would've won. I wasn't handing them the W willingly. If you had said you'd throw randomly, I could've played the odds and see if you rocked someone else other than Vash.

You're blaming and punishing me for deception when you were the first to start it.
 

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I was under the impression you did and thus chose the next best thing.

If I torched Vash, wolves would've won. I wasn't handing them the W willingly. If you had said you'd throw randomly, I could've played the odds and see if you rocked someone else other than Vash.

You're blaming and punishing me for deception when you were the first to start it.
I rolled for myself. I never said anything about throwing at Vash or that I was going to throw at the number I rolled for.

Have you ever flipped a coin to see how you feel about its suggestion? That's all it was. After it rolled Vash, I realized I should throw at somebody you didn't have doused, and you implied Quagmire was the alpha. Surely you'd douse the guardian wolf, right?! So since that definitely wasn't Quagmire, he seemed like the best bet to avoid duplicating targets.


I figured if you cared who the target was, then you'd ask the wolves who I threw at, like you said you would. When you didn't, I figured you just wanted me to use up a rock and didn't really care how. If you wanted me to throw at somebody in particular, you could've just said so. It was you hiding your intentions that led to this.

But more than all that, I made it simple for you: you burn or you lose. Your only chance was to burn. It didn't matter who I threw at. It didn't matter who you had doused. All I wanted was for you to embrace your love of fire! We could've had something beautiful, you know.

Instead the wolves will eat us all.
 

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I rolled for myself. I never said anything about throwing at Vash or that I was going to throw at the number I rolled for.
I brought up the rolling and made an easy list to follow. You weren't even going to rock which was needed as I only had 1 wolf doused.

Have you ever flipped a coin to see how you feel about its suggestion? That's all it was. After it rolled Vash, I realized I should throw at somebody you didn't have doused, and you implied Quagmire was the alpha. Surely you'd douse the guardian wolf, right?! So since that definitely wasn't Quagmire, he seemed like the best bet to avoid duplicating targets.
I actually had mentioned I wanted to re-fry Quagmire, or twice-bake him, something like that, so I would've more assumed you thought I had him doused.

And I couldn't do kut regardless as at that point there would be no incentive for you to rock anyone, but me to prevent me from torching everyone. That's me playing to my role. I had to keep a deadlock and if kut was gone, you could turn on me.

I figured if you cared who the target was, then you'd ask the wolves who I threw at, like you said you would. When you didn't, I figured you just wanted me to use up a rock and didn't really care how. If you wanted me to throw at somebody in particular, you could've just said so. It was you hiding your intentions that led to this.
To be fair, I forgot about the wolves. I'm sure they chose not to say anything to keep me in the dark as they had until 9am this morning to choose to say anything.

And if I had specified to throw it at kut or Vash, everyone would be wondering why. Looking back at the recent games with me as a wolf, 100% the wolves would be at it to prevent that thing from happening. RNG was the least suspicious option.

But more than all that, I made it simple for you: you burn or you lose. Your only chance was to burn. It didn't matter who I threw at. It didn't matter who you had doused. All I wanted was for you to embrace your love of fire! We could've had something beautiful, you know.

Instead the wolves will eat us all.
Like I outlined earlier, burning meant both you and me would lose. My only choice for winning at that point was to douse and appeal to you after laying down my reasoning.

AND NOW I'M BUILDING AN EVEN BIGGER FIRE! How's that for embracing it?! 🔥
 

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Oh well then. I shall lose regardless.

MVP for dimmerwit if the deadbody was aura or spirit seer. That thing ruined so many considerations I had and had no idea about it thanks to the confusion lol.

skip
 

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Instead the wolves will eat us all.

Hey wolves, what kind of marinade do you like?

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