you’re fucken dead

[Zell 17]

For what it's worth, I typically allow people to schedule when to take "covert" actions. The reason is twofold, but the first is the most important:

1) It completely eliminates using online status as a deduction tool. An eagle-eyed player could say "Hey, Kat hasn't been online since the start of the day and the Illusionist just killed, so the Illusionist can't be Kat." Being able to schedule actions renders this line of deduction faulty.
2) People are busy.

I do think the Illusionist should however be forced to kill with some "buffer" before the poll closes. Kind of like the alchemist and shadow wolves have a buffer. I'll edit the role afterwards.

 

[TD]

Oh yeah - I'm not actually upset. My days of getting upset over this are long gone.

@Benzine
If I seemed genuinely upset with you, or if I upset  you, I apologize.

 

[Ben]

I do think the Illusionist should however be forced to kill with some "buffer" before the poll closes. Kind of like the alchemist and shadow wolves have a buffer. I'll edit the role afterwards.

Buffer going forward sounds great.

 

[Ants!]

Given the most recent posts I think it might be better if I don't read/skim these 13 pages.

 

[Ben]

Given the most recent posts I think it might be better if I don't read/skim these 13 pages.

Nah, it's been pretty boring. There's not been any salt (or perceived salt) before this misunderstanding.

We were all just wanting @A Punched Face to hurry up and explode

EDIT: And wondering who the second trickster wolf is.

 

[Ants!]

I just wanted to say one more time that shortkut is fucken dead

 

[Local Hero]

Yeah, mostly it's been waiting for these day thread to end.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

My thought on Alu is that he has a very obvious tell and all game it's been screaming Solo Killer, so we'll see.

I think Alu is a nogoodnik

If I had to guess, Jawneh is town, Alu is wolf or SK, Kat is wolf if Alu is SK, Vash is SV

Lol

 

[TD]

Lol

My conclusion: you've corrected this tell in my time away.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Also I 100% was willing to use the Flower Child power on the day Kat waffled at the end of the day regardless of who was being lynched if it was a boring day phase

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Also I don't get why Kat waffled either, with her being what she is and knowing that Jawneh couldn't have been lying:

For Vash to be able to be headhunter targeting Quagmire, both Kat and Jawneh need to be lying about who they are. For him to be fool, one of the two of them needs to be lying. For him to be either a wolf or the SK, both Kat and Jawneh can be telling the truth.

Knowing that Jawneh wasn't lying should have made her feel safe to continue with that lynch. Oh well. I wish she didn't catch me changing my vote to Vash to follow her though. That would have been the best way to end this game.


But I guess I was right at the beginning of the day phase about both Kat and Vash being bad dongs, and then a bit later saying that the only hope for the town would be is Local was the SV. Not right about everything

 

[Fool's Requiem]

It completely eliminates using online status as a deduction tool. An eagle-eyed player could say "Hey, Kat hasn't been online since the start of the day and the Illusionist just killed, so the Illusionist can't be Kat." Being able to schedule actions renders this line of deduction faulty.

I agree with this 100%. I did think to try to line up abilities occurring with when/if people were online for the first couple games. Don't think I guesses correctly on those actions because of timed thing. Except for one of Tubby's games were I correctly guessed that Alu was the Great White Shark because of the timing of the action and his sudden appearance in the thread.

That said, I will likely not do this unless I cannot be online for whatever reason, and I do not intend to turn off online status... yet.

Also, @A Punched Face sorry for pointing my blame finger at you for my death this game. The way we talked about the Medium's interaction with Trickster wolves suggested to me that you had instantly determined that I was the Medium and had the your wolf buddies murderize me. Now, I assume it was the Blind Wolf that blew my cover.

 

[shortkut]

I just wanted to say one more time that shortkut is fucken dead

@Benzine i think you forgot that @Fool's Requiem used his revive on me

 

[TD]

The way we talked about the Medium's interaction with Trickster wolves suggested to me that you had instantly determined that I was the Medium and had the your wolf buddies murderize me. Now, I assume it was the Blind Wolf that blew my cover.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

So... do we think anyone dies tonight?

@Benzine i think you forgot that @Fool's Requiem used his revive on me

uh yeah, I did that.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

random guess or assumption based on my comments that I had blown my role?

 

[Ben]

I agree with this 100%. I did think to try to line up abilities occurring with when/if people were online for the first couple games. Don't think I guesses correctly on those actions because of timed thing. Except for one of Tubby's games were I correctly guessed that Alu was the Great White Shark because of the timing of the action and his sudden appearance in the thread.

That said, I will likely not do this unless I cannot be online for whatever reason, and I do not intend to turn off online status... yet.

Also, @A Punched Face sorry for pointing my blame finger at you for my death this game. The way we talked about the Medium's interaction with Trickster wolves suggested to me that you had instantly determined that I was the Medium and had the your wolf buddies murderize me. Now, I assume it was the Blind Wolf that blew my cover.

Unfortunately, it was definitely you talking in the thread that made us sus. She never checked you.

 

[Ants!]

@Benzine i think you forgot that @Fool's Requiem used his revive on me

GOOD

 

[TD]

random guess or assumption based on my comments that I had blown my role?

Oh it was definitely the comments - especially specifically Medium as opposed to any of the other speak-to-dead roles.

 

[Jawneh]

If only I stuck to my ritualist bit this game to mask Fool's slipups. Sigh.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

this is why I try to avoid talking about my role in any manner. I forked up.

 

[TD]

this is why I try to avoid talking about my role in any manner. I forked up.

Honestly, role claiming helps the town more than it hurts it. Yours just especially stood out at a time there weren't many claims out there.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Honestly, role claiming helps the town more than it hurts it. Yours just especially stood out at a time there weren't many claims out there.

I reallllllly don't like claiming a role unless it's ABSOLUTELY necessary. It's been a constant in how I play my game to the point of frustration for other townies on past games.

Kat's mentioned it previously.

 

[Ben]

I'm pretty impressed that of the last 3 alive, technically none are villagers.

 

[TD]

...oh god Illusionist and Wolves overlapped.

Final three; Illusionist, Wolf, Wildcard

Kingmaker here we go again.

 

[Jawneh]

I've started to claim in every game currently. Well.... a lot of it was lying as a wolf or evil, but still. This game it helped the town tons for the first couple days.

I probably will continue doing it too after this game whenever I'm town. I will not always be too direct though. Or I will. Who knows. The ways of Jawneh elude even himself.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I've started to claim in every game currently. Well.... a lot of it was lying as a wolf or evil, but still. This game it helped the town tons for the first couple days.

I probably will continue doing it too after this game whenever I'm town. I will not always be too direct though. Or I will. Who knows. The ways of Jawneh elude even himself.

my best form of lying is just not saying anything. The moment you say something that is a lie, you have to keep trying to cover it up with more lies and I cannot do that.

The other form is being blatant about my lies. That's more fun.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

There should at least be a grace period after a kill.

I think this is fair, but only if players are set to time abilities.

I think that if you are there and watching the clock, you should br allowed to suddenly dump an action last second. It is a pretty solid tactic used in Among Us games. Like imagine the round almost ending and a Priest coming in almost last second and spraying someone down with water. Be hilarious.

 

[Ben]

I'm going to start claiming to be a wolf even when not. I figure eventually that'll lead to a game when I am a wolf and no one will believe me.

 

[Local Hero]

I'm going to start claiming to be a wolf even when not. I figure eventually that'll lead to a game when I am a wolf and no one will believe me.

The Jawneh approach

 

[Jawneh]

my best form of lying is just not saying anything. The moment you say something that is a lie, you have to keep trying to cover it up with more lies and I cannot do that.

The other form is being blatant about my lies. That's more fun.

Both work. Do what you can and especially what is fun lol.

Also, lying as town is super helpful too. Not just due to what I did this game. There's many things folks can do as town too that I'm already planning on doing when I get the chance lol.

 

[Jawneh]

I'm going to start claiming to be a wolf even when not. I figure eventually that'll lead to a game when I am a wolf and no one will believe me.

Hey, you saw how that worked for me. As a wolf. It's great lol.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

So we have a wolf, a solo killer and either a solo non violent or townie

Oooo oooo, I have something for this.

 

[TD]

I'm going to start claiming to be a wolf even when not. I figure eventually that'll lead to a game when I am a wolf and no one will believe me.

My favourite way to play as a wolf is by legitimately just broadcasting what the wolves are doing, people take it as theorizing rather than telling them. Technically don't even need to lie.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Is this a king maker situation?

Lynch me and the wolf wins

Lynch you or Kat and I win

Assuming one of you two are not a Headhunter and the person who gets lynched is their target

 

[Local Hero]

They're voting for who picks lunch

 

[Ben]

He did miss that executing Vash makes Vash win, but yeah. Seems pretty kingmakery.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Illusionist has won. Let's not drag this out, pls.

 

[Jawneh]

My favourite way to play as a wolf is by legitimately just broadcasting what the wolves are doing, people take it as theorizing rather than telling them. Technically don't even need to lie.

Yeeeeee. I don't think I did that as a wolf or maybe I did? I know the more recent game I just said I'm the wolf, whereas an older game I was being more coy about it, but I don't remember if I was actually a wolf lol. That was fun too regardless.

"If I was a wolf, I would've doubled down zerker TD as so and so was hinting jailer. Ez money."

 

[TD]

Illusionist has won. Let's not drag this out, pls.

Technically any of the three players left can win.

 

[Jawneh]

If the illusionist tagged a wolf, there could be 24h wait to see if the fool lynched the illusionist, or last minute switches off to get lynched instead of a tie.

It's a weird world lol. Technically if the fool lynched the illusionist no one wins.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Technically any of the three players left can win.

TECHNICALLY

Logically, the Illusionist has won this game. No way do they let a vote go before they kill someone leading to a 1-1 tie in voting, which means no lynch. Then no one dies at night, and the Illusionist kills tbe next day.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

The illusionist and wolf both tagged dimmerwit so no one else is dying today. It's king maker.

I would throw my vote on Vash and leave it there the whole time.

 

[shortkut]

Just vote Vash

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Hey Benzine how many votes does it take to get lunch?

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Why did Quagmire take out dimmerwit? Even not knowing the reveal from here I would have taken out Kat with it.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Why did Quagmire take out dimmerwit? Even not knowing the reveal from here I would have taken out Kat with it.

Maybe he thought Kat would kill Vash?

 

[dimmerwit]

@shortkut, I once again apologise for blowing your brains out.

As restitution, please allow me to go on a depraved rant about the New England sports team of your choice.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Maybe he thought Kat would kill Vash?

If he thought Kat was a wolf he should have tagged her because of that.

He likely thought there was no wolf left and both dimmerwit and Kat were townies. Kat is the much more active player here and would have been a better choice to kill off.

 

[Christina]

@shortkut, I once again apologise for blowing your brains out.

As restitution, please allow me to go on a depraved rant about the New England sports team of your choice.

You don't have to apologize for that! You did nothing wrong!